Daylight Saving Time

Welcome to the DST fight to #LockTheClock, fall 2022

After a few days of this blog being down (grrrrrrr) it seems to have been fixed, so welcome!

I will use this post just to collect some of the best of the news coverage from this year, which seems a bit more intense than it was last year. Not sure why, but here we are.

First is a story that will be seen by all the cognoscenti in Denver who read 5280. The by-the-numbers approach was a fresh, fun take and the illustration that Sean Parsons put together is much more provocative than we usually see:

DST 5280 daylight saving time

 

Next was a great national piece that just had so many wonderful bits. I recommend viewing it here so you can see the transcript and if you do be sure to click to tell them that your local PBS station is PBS12 (if you live in Denver).

If you don’t want to click, here it is:

 

The behind-the-scenes story about that piece is that the reason they had the video of me in the park was that the back story is that I go there often to get photos to put on the blog. That’s true, too, I do that.

The morning the video guy came, however, it was gray and overcast, and not really great for taking photos. But the video guy was a pro, so he made it work. So he got shots of me from several angles taking pictures, and so one of them, necessarily, became a photo of him. 

If I was a less ethical person, I would have had a headline reading: HERE’S WHAT PBS WON’T SHOW YOU, BUT I WILL!!!

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 And here is a great, concise video from Chicago:

And here is a fun podcast from Michigan.

Answer to the question: “Is this the last year we will Fall Back for Daylight Saving Time?”

I have a search set up so that once a day, I get an email with all the stories that mention “Daylight Saving Time” and the last couple of weeks have seen a flood of them, all with a similar headline:

Is this the last time we will Fall Back and stop changing the clocks for Daylight Saving Time?

It makes sense that newsrooms would cover this, as people are asking. I was kind of shocked when I saw these results when I started typing the question into Google News:

DST headlines

And I know that in casual conversations, it is not a random question. 

The short answer to the question of if we have to change back is this: Probably.

I wish I could say for sure that this is the last time, but I would put the odds at 50-50 at best.

Why?

It is true that the U.S. Senate passed a law that would have made this the last Fall Back. We would then Spring Forward next spring, and stay there.

But for anyone who has seen Schoolhouse Rock, the Senate is, essentially, only one of the three steps needed to turn this into law. The second step is the House of Representatives. Here in the days before the election, there is zero chance that it will get a vote.

Could it get a vote in the lame duck session after the election and before the new Congress is seated? Possible, but I think the chance is remote. If it couldn’t even get a hearing over the last summer, insiders tell me that the chances it will get a vote are slim.

This story, from the incomparable Scott Schneider (most Scotts are pretty good guys, I’ve found) places the blame in part on Rep. Jan Schakowski from Chicago. It is true that she is the head of the subcommittee that would take up the bill, and it is true that if she did hold a hearing it would help push things forward, but she is not going to push forward a bill that the leadership of the party doesn’t want pushed forward. 

Maybe it is because the most recognizable face of fixing the clocks is a Republican locked in a close race in Florida? That is certainly at least one of the factors.

And once the new Congress is seated, any bills that didn’t pass in the current Congress expire, and we will have to start all over again. And it will be harder next time for a couple of reasons.

  1. It passed the Senate by a method called Unanimous Consent, which essentially means it was on a list with a bunch of non-controversial stuff, and no senators objected. After it was done, one or two senators said they would have objected if they had known about it. Now, it was just a couple of them, so the bill would probably pass 98-2 or whatever, but that process is just harder than the Unanimous Consent method.
  2. It looks as though the House will be very closely divided in 2023. Neither side will want to give the other side a victory, and so we will be stuck because of stupid politics.

It’s like my son told me years ago… The opposite of pro is con and the opposite of progress is Congress.

But I will keep pushing forward. I still have hope, especially given the amazing progress that we have made on this issue in the last five years. 

And while I do think we won’t see as much activity in the states as we have in recent years as state legislators take a wait-and-see approach because of the federal legislation, there could be some activity.

For instance, I recently testified to an informal study committee in New Mexico. Unfortunately I had to do it remotely, and I couldn’t see the reactions of the people on the committee because this was my view. 😛

Zoom into NM

(Very weird watching yourself with a bit of lag being shown on a big screen like that, lemme tell you. Next time I’m dropping everything else and driving to New Mexico, a state I love, just to avoid that and also to hang out again with Cliff Pirtle, who is a #LockTheClock pioneer and also a fascinating guy.)

Sen. Pirtle was one of the first legislators I ever wrote about in 2015 and who was one of the first to invite me to testify in person in 2017. He’s got some creative ideas about how New Mexico could once again become a leader in clock sanity, but we’ll save that for another post.

For now, just hang on, and when people ask you if this is the last year we change the clocks for Daylight Saving Time, just tell them that their question is a common one, and it is based on an understandable assumption that the government might actually do something that people in general agree on, but that—unfortunately—this is likely not the last time we will have to Fall Back.

 

Time to get back to not going back in time

I know that headline doesn’t make a ton of sense.

In short, it’s my way of saying that it is time for me to get back to work on this blog. I’ve been ignoring it for a while, even though there is plenty going on. Sorry about that. It’s what happens when fixing something as complex as time is only a hobby.

I do think about it quite often, especially this time of year when the sunrises are late enough that it is relatively easy to get out and get a spectacular sunrise shot, as I did a few mornings ago:

Misty sunrise before the DST change

Taking walks on mornings like that make me think about what it might be like in the dark of winter, when the sun comes up even later, that we might all be consigned to an inky darkness in the mornings. Especially people who live on the far west sides of their respective time zones would have really really late sunrises.

We know that the canard about kids not being safe going to school is just wrong, the research shows that clearly. But it will be different. Different good? Different bad? We just don’t know and it’s really hard to think about in the abstract.

That’s why I’m a believer that whatever decision we make as a society—about which way we should #LockTheClock—that it should have a full year before it is implemented. That way we can all really take measure of what things would be like. It may well be that the answer is just different for states at different sides of a time zone. As I’ve written here before many times, it’s a bit crazy that Massachusetts and Main are in the same time zone as Indiana.

So, I’ll be writing about that, keeping up with any new bills that get introduced around the country, and being as helpful as I can be to lawmakers, journalists, citizens and more as we get into one of the twin busy seasons in the #LockTheClock movement.

Thanks for joining me on this journey!

Trust the scientists? It’s hard when they are so unscientific regarding Daylight Saving Time on Twitter

I personally have talked to thousands of people about fixing Daylight Saving Time. The response is overwhelming: People absolutely want to #LockTheClock and stop changing the clock twice a year.

Most people just say they want it fixed, and thats the end of the conversation. Some would ask which time zone we should lock into, but prefaced it with some version of I do not really care which one, just stop the changes!

Some people have opinions about which one we should lock into, and among those it is easily 2-1 in favor of locking into the time we currently use in the summer.

On Twitter, however, it would seem to be the opposite. There is a small but surprisingly harsh group of Twitter users who attack me and others for not agreeing with them that we should stick with the winter time, Standard Time, year round. (Of course, it is Twitter, so there is a pretty good chance that most of those supposed “people” are actually just one person with a bunch of accounts.)

And then there are the circadian sleep scientists.

These are, I’m pretty sure, real people operating under their own real names. But what has been surprising and frankly disappointing is how they have behaved on Twitter. I would think that they would maintain the same high standards that are required for their academic publishing in a public forum, but a few of them have been shockingly combative, tone-deaf to legitimate public views, dismissive of other academic specialties and in some cases intellectually dishonest in how they present other scientists’ work.

The most recent example of that came in this tweet:

 

 

When I first saw that I was fascinated, and was looking forward to adding a new paper to my research page. The anonymous trolls on Twitter accuse me of being an advocate only for Permanent DST, but that has never been the case. I have always included research supporting both sides on my research page.

I was mildly surprised that there wasn’t a link to the study, but I was able to find it pretty quickly.

Then I read the study.

It turns out, I had seen that study before, and I had even linked to it from that research page. The reason I didn’t recognize it from the tweet is that the study says the exact opposite of what that tweet says.

The study itself is very clear on a couple of key points:

  1. The gradual increase in evening crashes after the change to DST is directly related to an increase in the number of trips. When it is light out, people go out more, and drive more miles. More miles driven=more crashes. Seems pretty clear.
  2. Given all the data, the researchers determined clearly that from the perspective of traffic safety, Permanent DST is the safest choice of the available options.

So, I replied to the tweet, pointing that out. The person who wrote that tweet did not back down and in fact tried to justify the original tweet by casting blame on the authors of the original paper for not including her point of view:

that is a common theme of DST papers. they are only looking at the acute change. They ignore the neurocognitive risks of dst including worse judgement, alertness, reaction time, risk taking that affect the chronic risk of being on dst

I replied that a point of view like that is legitimate, but only if she would have pointed out that her opinion is the opposite of the authors of the study, or if she at least had linked to that study so people could decide for themselves.

In a private message to her, I asked her this hypothetical:

Imagine that someone used a graphic from one of your papers, and mentioned you by name, but didn’t link to the study and said that your work supports the opposite of your conclusion. You would be justifiably livid. Why is it OK for you to do that to others?

It is not OK. If I did something like that I’d get a new one ripped for me by those who love to spew hate on Twitter, and for once they would have a point.

Trust the scientists?

In the past I have asked other sleep scientists about the distasteful tactics being used on Twitter by people who agree with them about permanent Standard Time. A few have agreed with me privately, but are afraid to say anything publicly lest they become the target for online attacks.

Just to be absolutely clear because my position gets so twisted: I am like most people, I don’t really care that much which way we Lock the Clock, I just want the changes to stop. I want to get that done, and to do that I support whatever bills do that, especially the ones that have a chance of passing. I have personally and publicly advocated for some states, especially those on the western edge of their time zone, to consider Standard Time permanently, and been rebuffed by legislators every time.

Given that the momentum is so clearly moving in that direction, I would think that those who want Permanent Standard Time would want to work with lawmakers instead of working against all the current bills and laws. If they would work with them then they’d have a chance to make sure that there is an implementation stage. If they were smart, they would also try to work with the federal lawmakers to ensure that the law is written in a way that states can, if they want, easily switch to permanent Standard Time after the new law takes effect. If the horrible things happen in ST that they say will happen, it will become clear to all and it will be an easy sell to convince lawmakers and the public that permanent ST is better.

It may take a couple of years to get that to happen, but we’ve been stuck with this current rotten system on and off for more than 100 years, so a year or two of Permanent DST is a small price to pay to actually make progress.

Time for scientists to be smart about science AND about how to get things done. They don’t have to be mutually exclusive.

So, here is my bottom line:

To Dr. Johnson: Delete that tweet. It’s not a good look for you to use someone else’s research deceptively. If you want to make the case that it is time zone misalignment, and not increased traffic, that causes an increase in traffic crashes, you can do that, but be honest about the underlying research, or at the very least provide a link to it.

To circadian sleep scientists in general: Embracing some ambiguity and giving respect to other scientific disciplines and public opinion does not weaken your point of view, it strengthens it. Your current tactics clearly are not working, so maybe try to listen first and start from a position of wanting to learn more rather than announcing that you have the only opinion that should be listened to. Then you will be a part of the conversation.

To the permanent Standard Time people of Twitter: I ask you all the question that I asked one guy who attacked me recently: “Do you talk this way in real life? I’m just imagining us talking at a bar and you calling me a liar with no evidence and then saying “Good day” as if that settled it.” Tweeting invective may make your tweets more popular with the cabal of fake Twitter accounts who are so adamant that permanent Standard Time is the only possible solution, but it does not reflect well on you as people. I am a real flesh and blood person, so I hope that you will imagine that you are sitting next to me in a coffee house having a discussion. If you are tempted to tweet something that you wouldn’t say in person, then maybe it would be a good idea not to tweet it.

 

Addendum on May 23:

Johnson retweeted one of my tweets, and once again described a research paper exactly the opposite of what the authors of that paper said:

I replied to her.

 

Um… No. It very specifically says that ST is the problem. “The clock shift results in a 37% reduction in deer-vehicle accidents during morning commuter hours, since fewer commuters are on the road before sunrise, but a 72% increase in accidents during evening commuter hours.” pic.twitter.com/xZPg5KrnoK

— Scott Yates, #LockTheClock (@lock_the_clock) May 20, 2022

She did not reply.

And then today I saw her tweet that the Massachusetts Medical Society has taken an official position that the state should lock the clock into Standard Time. This would be interesting, so I looked through the posts of that body on Twitter, on the web site, and all around, and couldn’t find any such statement. If it is the case, I will update this post, but given Dr. Johnson’s previous statements that turned out to be the opposite of reality, I have my doubts.

 

Addendum on Aug. 26.

 

I never did hear from the Mass. Medical Society, and still can’t find any evidence that the organization took the position.

And, for the third time, Johnson went on Twitter and announced that a study says the exact opposite of what it actually says.

History and Geography of fixing DST, especially in Tennessee

(During my short-lived campaign to be a U.S. Representative, I got such great response from voters I talked to about my plan to #LockTheClock. I also got a bunch of nice notes from fans around the country, including this one, below. I’m finally cleaning out my inbox and re-read this note, and wrote to Bill. He said I could run it as a blog post. Great stuff! And thanks, Bill. With your support, we can get this done!!! -Scott)

Scott,

I am totally with you on your crusade to Lock the Clock.  Hopefully you won’t mind if I share a little trivia and a war story with you.

I have (almost) always lived in East Tennessee.  In Tennessee, the current boundary between Eastern Time and Central Time follows the edge of the Cumberland Plateau from Kentucky to the Alabama / Georgia line.  Unlike the sign you depicted in Kentucky, this is a remote area and a logical place for a time zone boundary.  But it wasn’t always so.  My mother (born in 1925) told me when she was a girl, East Tennessee was in the Central Time Zone.  I did a bit of research a few years ago and found the below corroborating map:

Dst-historic map

If I recall correctly from the accompanying text, the architects of the time zone boundaries wanted them to connect known communities so it would be easy to remember where the boundaries were.  (I guess folks didn’t really care if their neighbors across the street were in a different time zone.  Nobody watched the 6 o’clock news because there was no 6 o’clock news.)

So the above is one piece of trivia (actually maybe not so trivial).  Here’s another: if time zone boundaries were perfectly logical (which to me would mean the boundaries of GMT would be at 7.5 degrees east longitude and 7.5 degrees west longitude, and all other boundaries would be 15 longitude degrees from these lines), the boundary between Eastern Time and Central Time would pass through the town in which I live, just over a mile east of my home.  It would pass directly through the garden center at the nearby Lowe’s:

DST-line in tennessee

(I couldn’t get Google Earth to show the 82.5 degree line and also the label “82.5” but you can do the math from the two adjacent lines on the snip.)

I tell people about this from time to time; they usually just politely feign interest.  (I guess there are more important things, but not many more important things to a time person.)  My take away from this trivia is that East Tennessee should be in the Central Time Zone, in spite of the obvious disadvantages of not having the time zone boundary in a relative wilderness.  (Clocks in Bristol, Virginia and Bristol, Tennessee, separated from each other by the aptly named “State Street,” would be an hour apart.)

OK, now my war story…  I was on a business trip to Spain.  I was blissfully ignorant of the impending time change from CET to Summer Time as I strolled the streets of Barcelona with my business traveling companion on a Saturday evening.  We stopped at several tapas bars and eventually ate supper at a restaurant which offered raw oysters.  I ordered 6, employing my very rudimentary level of Spanish.  Then, back to the hotel, where I discovered, sitting bolt upright in my bed at the realization, that being at the airport well before my first flight of the day to Atlanta would mean being even an hour earlier, thanks to the onset of good old “daylight saving” time at 2am tomorrow.  This would have been bad enough, but of course the flight was late and by the time I was seated on the aircraft, in the last row in the middle seat of the middle section of a 767 (I am not embellishing this for dramatic effect!), I had developed food poisoning (from the oysters or tapas items or both).  It was the most miserable flight ever, exacerbated by the earlier than normal airport arrival requirement and lack of sleep brooding about it!

OK, thanks for listening, and thanks for being our point person for eliminating the totally useless and archaic practice of changing clocks twice a year.

Bill Horton
Kingsport, Tennessee

What To Do Now To Fix Daylight Saving Time Forever

I am now a candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives, which is a thing I just never imagined saying before and I am still getting used to it.

The campaign had a HUGE deadline on March 15th, something that I personally had to work harder on than just about anything I’ve ever worked on in my whole life. We got it done, and then I was at lunch trying to relax for just a minute when my phone absolutely exploded with messages.

Now you know the news: The U.S. Senate approved the Sunshine Protection Act. Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse seemed absolutely giddy by the standards of the floor of the Senate.

Sheldon whitehouse on DST

This is great news!!! (If I was not running for Congress on a promised to fix Daylight Saving Time, this would be unequivocally great news. It still is great, but it does complicate my message just a bit. It’s OK, I’ll get that part figured out.)

That it came without a roll call vote, and happened with Unanimous Consent was a bit anticlimactic, and so Sen. Whitehouse had to explain it:

Whitehouse: We have just passed the bill to end the return from Daylight Savings Time.. pic.twitter.com/lDdwRzyemN

— Acyn (@Acyn) March 15, 2022

 

Now, while this is progress for sure, it is not the end of the road. Even if the House passes this and the President signs it, I am worried something could goof it up before the implementation, which is a year and a half away. That’s why I think we need to keep pressing to make sure this gets done done done.

What could delay it? Or stop progress completely? Confusion about what time zone we are going to #LockTheClock into.

There is a small but vocal set of sleep scientists who have been saying that we should only lock into Standard Time, not Daylight Time, as the current bill is set up. Their arguments have never made much of a dent in the state legislatures, and now that we have the federal bill that has actually passed unanimously, it is crystal clear that permanent DST is what nearly all of the people and the politicians want.

But it is a legitimate question, and one that needs to be considered, especially in some states that lie on the western edge of their time zones.

That’s why I was so pleased to see that the Sunshine Act that was approved had a change that I recommended strongly to the office of the sponsor, Sen. Marco Rubio. The original bill had immediate implementation. I advocated that they include a one-year phase-in, and that is what happened.

Now we will have one more winter in Standard Time, and during that winter I hope a couple of key things happen:

  1. Legislators in states like Indiana, Michigan, Kentucky, and Tennessee, as well as North and South Dakota, Nebraska and Kansas all pay close attention all year to what the sunrises and sunsets could and should be. Permanent Standard time will still give them plenty of late sun in the summer, but will make mornings a bit less dark, and allow them to unify in a single time zone over those whole states, which are all split in two right now.
  2. That school boards everywhere will realize that change is coming, and this is the point they should really examine their bell schedules. School start times are outrageously early now, especially for high schools with what we know about the sleep needs of adolescents. With the sun coming up later, some high school start times should be pushed TWO HOURS later. That might seem like a huge change, and it is, but if we learned anything during Covid, it was that change can happen quickly if needed, and this is needed.

I think these things will happen, in part because I just took a look at my blog traffic. Usually my most popular pages are the ones with the memes, and the one that tracks legislation around the country. Since the Senate vote, by far my most popular page is the guide of which is the best time zone to lock into

If you are in one of those states that is split, I hope you will take a look at where you are, and really consider what will be best for you and those around you.

But if you are in any of the other states, and you are mad about the fact that you still have to change your clocks two more times, just remember that other times that we have fiddled with the clock rashly and hastily, there was a backlash, and part of that backlash is what has kept us in the current mess for all these years.

We have had some form of clock changing since World War I. As the world currently tries to avoid World War III, let’s all just remain patient, and make sure that this particular part of modern life is surely, completely and finally fixed forever.

One other thing that could stop progress:

The other thing that could halt progress is just partisanship. This is a totally bipartisan bill, but the face most associated with it is Sen. Marco Rubio, who could be a candidate for president. Or there could be some other partisan spat that keeps progress from being made. That’s the kind of thing that drives me nutso, and it’s a big part of why I’m running for Congress. If you are interested in learning more, please be in touch on that site. Thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tipping Point to fix Daylight Saving Time for good?

It is a big week for those who want to #LockTheClock. It is the week before the change, so we all haven’t been robbed of an hour of sleep and can articulate why it is that the Spring Forward change is so deadly.

And it’s even a bigger week because the fact that I am now running to be a U.S. Representative on this issue is raising the profile of the issue that much more.

One example is this Washington Post story, that got right to the heart of what I have been talking about.

Tipping point

I am not actually sure where the Tipping Point is. Have we passed it, or will we only really have passed it once the law is changed?

The change is coming for sure, it’s just a matter of time.

It will certainly come faster if I get elected and spend my time in Washington pushing for it. (If you want to learn more about that, visit my campaign site: www.ScottYates.com.)

Thanks for reading, and thanks for being a part of the change.

And remember, on the Monday after the Spring Forward change, #SleepInForSafety. 

Lock The Clock is going to a whole new level

Close readers of this blog may have been wondering why it has been so quiet of late. Truth is, I’ve just been a bit busy. This has always just been a hobby for me, something that I’ve enjoyed doing on nights and weekends for eight years now.

Well, now I am leaving my day job and going to work full time to end the clock insanity in the one place that I just might be able to get it done: The United States House of Representatives.

Scott-yates-for-ouray

That’s why I’m announcing today that I am a candidate! I’m running in the district I was born in one part of, worked in another part of, and live in a third part. (The district is bigger than New York State, has 26 counties, spans the Continental Divide and has three National Parks. It is currently represented by Rep. Lauren Boebert.)

I will have much more to say about Daylight Saving Time, and about our relationship to politics and government, but mostly I will be doing that on the campaign site: scottyates.com.

If you are reading this, it is because you know about this issue, and care about it. 

Given that, my one request is that you share that site far and wide, and register on that site for updates. My hunch is that we have now reached a place in our society where we can actually get this fixed with someone who is going to talk about this issue, a lot, and not do any negative campaigning at all. You watch me, and you will see that this will be a totally positive effort to not just talk about how politics can be better, but to actually make it happen.

So, thanks for reading, and thanks in advance for doing all you can to support my candidacy. You won’t be doing it for me, or even for yourself. You’ll be doing it to show the world that we can make things better by focusing on what we agree on.

New Idea For 2022 to Fix Daylight Saving Time

The narrative surrounding the issue of fixing Daylight Saving Time has evolved from being a niche topic, to being a legitimate concern for state and national legislators. That’s great.

As it has evolved, we are now starting to grapple with a question that hadn’t been real before, and now is: If we do stop changing the clocks, where should we stop?

So far all of the research—including really good in-depth studies commissioned by the legislatures in Massachusetts and Washington—and all of the bills that have passed in 20 states and all of the polling have leaned in the direction of permanent DST, the time we have in the summer.

There were two bills that I saw in 2021 that advocated for a state moving into Standard Time, the winter time, permanently. Out of 116 bills filed, that’s not many, and both of them were killed quickly. Nobody seems to like that solution, except in Arizona and Hawaii, which have done that and are happy with it.

But it is a legitimate question, and one that’s hard for legislators to answer in any meaningful way.

They could look to the science, but as I’ve written about at length, the science is mixed at best. There is a vocal group of circadian sleep scientists who insist Standard Time is the way to go, but they ignore the science from other disciplines. Overall health appears to be better under Summertime. Mental health is better. Pedestrian safety is way better. (That’s important because one of the most emotional arguments that anti-reform forces use is that darkness in the morning is less safe for school children than more darkness in the afternoon. That’s just the opposite of the truth.)

So, my reading of the science is that on balance, permanent summertime is better, but I can see that some people could see it differently if they value circadian sleep science as more important than, say, cardiac or mental health.

The-tampa-bay-estuary-program-WnUTxGtj9nk-unsplashSunrise on Rehoboth Beach 

 

For legislators, then, they are forced to make a decision. Most of them have heard from constituents that permanent summertime would be the best, so they lean that way. But it’s the kind of thing that forces them to make a decision that is going to make some people unhappy. Normally they are fine doing that if the people they are making unhappy are in the other party, but with this issue there is no partisan breakdown, so that gives them pause.

What they need is more information, and some political cover.

That’s why a proposed solution from Texas is so great. A state representative there, Lyle Larson, has proposed asking voters to weigh in.

Do you want to lock into summertime, or into wintertime?

It’s a simple question, and the answer will be unambiguous. 

And while I proposed that we ask such a question in my home state of Colorado, we have not been able to get that done. And Colorado may not be the best to be a leader in this one anyway.

Texas, however, is interesting. First, it is huge. It’s the second most populous state, so that means something.

Texas politics are generally conservative, and leans heavily on evangelical Christians. I take it from people like Wes Cantrell, a youth pastor in an evangelical church in Georgia and a leader in clock sanity, that there’s no religious issue with locking the clock in summertime. (That’s important for me. I have heard a few cantankerous types call Standard Time “God’s Time” and that always cracks me up. I know He made the earth in seven days, but the good book is not at all clear what time zone He did that in. I certainly don’t want to offend anyone’s religion, but so far it seems that religious arguments are being made—ironically—in bad faith.)

So if the vote comes and Texans announce clearly that they have a preference for Summertime, that will mean that the message is similar in conservative Texas and liberal Massachusetts. While there may be a few states where permanent wintertime would be best, in general most states will want to lock into permanent Summertime.

Bottom line: The idea of a vote from the citizens of Texas is a move toward clock sanity, and anyone who is against the idea of a vote is revealing themselves as being anti-reform. If you really believe you have the facts and the science on your side, you can make that case to the voters. If they vote the other way, it doesn’t mean that they are anti-science or anti-religion or anti-anything. They are in favor of clock sanity.

Famed scientist Neil deGrasse Tyson wrote that he favors permanent summertime, and I had to laugh when some of the anti-reform efforts tried to mansplain to him that his view was not inline with the science. Can you imagine the disconnect from reality it would take to tell one of the best-known scientists on the planet that he is anti-science?

There is only one problem with this brilliant plan for clock sanity in 2022: The Texas legislature is not scheduled to meet. It’s one of those states where they meet only every other year, and this is an off year. They could go into special session, but it looks unlikely that this bill would pass in a special session.

Many other states do meet this year, and so this is my call to any and all state legislators: Instead of working on a bill to just signal your intent to go into permanent Daylight Saving Time, why not ask the voters of your state what time they want to lock into if they could. That will actually help move the issue forward more than just about anything else at the state level.

If you would like help with the language, please be in touch and I’ll do all I can to help.

The Truth About the Politico Story

One of the all-time great journalism movies is Absence of Malice. The movie is about a reporter played by Sally Field, and a guy who gets falsely accused of being in the mob, played by Paul Newman.

Newman gets revenge in a clever way, which leads to Field’s character getting put in the place that no reporter wants to be in: the subject of a story. Another reporter on her paper rolls her chair over to the desk where Field’s character is sitting, and asks her about the nature of her relationship with Newman’s character. She says, “Just… say we were involved.” The reporter then asks, “That’s true, isn’t it?” and Field’s character pauses for a moment, and then says:

“No. But it’s accurate.”

I was thinking of that scene yesterday when I was talking to a young reporter from Politico, Hailey Fuchs. I spent an hour talking to her about Daylight Saving Time the day before. We mostly talked about how great the movement is, and how much progress we have made.

She also asked some about the one annoying part of the otherwise joyous fun I have trying to fix Daylight Saving Time.

To her credit, the next day Fuchs let me know that the story was going to focus on the conflict. I told her the bummer of that is that the conflict isn’t the news. The news is that this is a meaningful issue that does NOT have an acrimonious debate. The news is that real progress is being made on something that was once thought unsolvable.

She replied that her story was accurate, so she would be going with it. When she said the word “accurate” it brought to mind that scene from Absence of Malice. She’s right, the Politico story with her byline is accurate.

It’s also not true.

What is the truth?

The truth is found in a poll that, ironically, Politico ran in the spring. It showed an overwhelming majority of people favor the Sunshine Act.

I thought about not even writing this response. I mean, why give any energy to the one annoyance in this otherwise fun hobby that I’ve had for eight years now? But I decided in the end that if anyone is interested in the truth, and not the cheap, easy story of a conflict where there isn’t one, they should be able to find that.

It’s sad for me that the editors of Politico would try to force such an acrimonious angle on what is an otherwise positive story. They did at least keep in one bit of truth:

That highlighted section is exactly right, and essentially undermines the whole thesis of the story. There are no members of Congress proposing that the country go into permanent Standard Time, and there is nobody in Congress who is in favor of the status quo of switching back and forth. That’s also true in the state legislatures, which have seen dozens of proposals to Lock The Clock into Permanent DST. There was one bill to lock a state into Standard Time, but that died quickly.

And there are no people other that the author David Prerau who think it’s a good idea to keep changing the clocks twice a year. I really hope that Prerau decides to write another book on the topic, because if he does he’ll see all the research that has come out since his book was published that shows how deadly that switch is. Given the research, his comments come off as almost callous in their disregard for the death and injuries inflicted.

As to the end of that sentence, that no action is imminent…

Really?

When I started zero states had passed anything, and there were no federal bills. Now we have 20 states that have passed something, and two federal bills. The Sunshine Act has an amazing set of cosponsors on both the House and Senate versions.

I suppose if by “imminent” Politico means “tomorrow” then that’s accurate. But given that we’ve been stuck with clock changing on and off for more than 100 years, I think action is indeed imminent.

That’s accurate, AND true, and there’s nothing that the cynical editors of Politico can do to take away from that truth.

 

Postscript

I have edited this post to take out the negative references to other individuals. I realized that in my own way, I was contributing to the acrimony, and I don’t want to do that. I also deleted/edited the posts I wrote that originally contributed to the problem. I genuinely feel bad about inserting any negativity into what is a totally positive and fun issue. I will endeavor to do better.

Behind the Scenes with Jon Lovett and our Shared Quest to Fix Daylight Saving Time

I was a reporter for years before I became a startup founder, and so I always try to be as accommodating as I can when reporters contact me, especially if they are from local papers or radio stations. They work so hard for so little pay.

And then sometimes I get an email, and well, I sit up a bit straighter. That happened when the Daily Show reached out, and that whole experience was amazing.

It happened again recently when a producer from the Lovett or Leave It podcast reached out.

I’ve been on a few podcasts, and they are always great, but there is nobody more sophisticated in his thinking about Daylight Saving Time than Lovett. I’ve written about his positions a couple of times here on this blog. And I always note that whenever he even says “Daylight Saving Time” in front of an audience, the crowd cheers. It’s Lovett’s Thunder Road. It is what his fans want, and he gives it to them.

The episode is here or embedded below, and my bit starts at about 57:30 if you want to skip a lot of funny stuff:

 

 

So, what was the experience like?

It was fantastic.

Because I knew I was by far the least famous person on the podcast, I wanted to be sure that I would be as cool as I could be. My way of not being nervous is to over-prepare, so I went over a zillion funny lines in my head. I also listened to a bunch of the old podcasts so that I would know that I was fitting in with the general feel of the environment. I also wore a white shirt. I dunno why, I knew I’d be the only one wearing a white businessy kind of shirt at the event, but somehow I thought it would be OK.

Luckily, they had a pro photographer there, who could make anyone look good, because this photo is really nice, so thanks.

Daylight Saving Time discussion with Jon Lovett and Scott Yates
Credit: Kit Karzen | @kitkarzen on Instagram | @KitKarzen on Twitter

I got there and they had a green room, which wasn’t green, and wasn’t even really a room. The podcast is recorded at the Cinelounge, which is a cool outdoor concept and just a half-block off Hollywood Blvd. The green room was just some plywood walls sort of screwed together, but it did have green astroturf on the ground, so that made it green, I suppose.

They had a few munchies, and some booze. I did not have the booze, but just about everyone else did. Jon took his on stage with him.

Because I was there so early I got to chat with some of the producers and writers for the show, who are all so smart and talented that you would think they would treat me like dirt given that I am clearly not an A-list celebrity. Or B-list. (After the Daily Show, I may have moved from Z-list to Y-list.) They did not. They were all as gracious and welcoming as possible.

The first other person to arrive who was going to be on the show was Sam Sanders, host of It’s Been a Minute from NPR. If you haven’t heard that show, or heard any of the other times he has been on other shows, you are missing out. He is a thoughtful and interesting as they come. His work is so genuine and he seems so personally gracious on the air that I figured he would be a good guy in person, too. He was. Just fun and funny, and is clearly a great reporter as he started asking me questions about DST that I never get.

I didn’t get to chat as much with Adam Conover or Michaela Watkins, but I did a little and they were both great also.

Lovett was the last to arrive. Everyone seems to call him that—not Jon. Just his last name.

If you’ve heard his show, you know that he talks about fast food a lot. I didn’t think that it was just a gag before, I figured that it was part of his life. But he is a big shot, I figure he typically eats at nice places, or has people prepare him food at home. Maybe he does, but he rolled in with a MacDonald’s drink in his hand, and immediately starts chatting with basically all of us in the green room about some great deal they have right now. He also said he doesn’t eat fries while driving. I don’t know if he talks in all parts of his life in the way that he does on his podcast, but to the four or so of us in the green room, he sounded exactly the same.

The podcast itself is great, but I only know that now. The problem with the green room is that it doesn’t have a speaker, and the plywood kind of makes it hard to hear. So most of the time those of us on the show stood off to the side of the stage, watching what was going on, but it was still hard to hear.

I do hope that you will listen, and let me know by email what you thought.

The funniest reaction I thought from Lovett to something I said was when I complimented him on how sophisticated his take was, as DST is a more complex topic than it might seem at first. A lot of well known people just say they are “against DST” but don’t really take it past that. Lovett has views that understand the complexities. So I mentioned that I wrote about that in a post about celebrities and DST, and he mock-demured about being on a list of celebrities. The audio is funny, but his body language of pretending to be coquettish was hilarious.

We then did a quiz that was based on DST, which was fun based on real research, and then it was over.

After my bit, they did a standard thing that they love on this show where they have the guests defend a basically un-defendable position for 60 seconds. The funniest moment there for me was when Sam Sanders refused to even pretend to extoll on how Teri Gross is not that great of an interviewer.

I had suggested that they do that bit, but instead of standard views from the news, make the guests defend a position that has been sent to me by very earnest people through the years. It was probably wise not to do this, but just for fun, here is that list:

  1. Move the clocks a half hour and lock it there. (I get this one a LOT.)
  2. Everyone use Greenwich time. (Computer programmers love this one because it makes their job easier. Also, they see the world differently. The idea is that we would all use GMT, and so in L.A. you would go to work around 5 p.m., have lunch around 9 or 10 p.m., dinner around 4 a.m. etc. Each time zone would just get used to their new hours.)
  3. Make days longer and shorter depending on the time of year, and our computers and phones will just keep track of it. So, a 30-minute meeting in the summer will be longer than a 30-minute meeting in the winter.
  4. Make the day 10 hours long instead of 24. (This was actually from a guy named Yates who wrote in to the guy fixing the time for the railroads back in 1883.)
  5. Abandon “time” completely, and just go to work, eat, etc., whenever you want.

After the show, I asked Lovett what I could do to be helpful to him. He asked what was going on, and I told him about an effort in Texas that could have some real promise. He said he was totally focused on the federal bills, so we said we would keep in touch about that. (I have posts coming soon about both Texas and the federal efforts.)

I had a hunch that I would be pretty worked up after the show, and not ready for bed, so I walked over a block or so from the Cinelounge, and saw the new Eternals movie at the historic El Capitan theater. I don’t know if I had ever seen a movie with a live organist before a film, so that was cool. The movie was great, I thought, and then after the film it was quite late and fog had rolled in, making a nearly deserted Hollywood Boulevard other-worldly.

Sorry this post has gone on so long. Lovett has joked about how after Zack Snyder’s Justice League we can use the shorthand: Go ahead and give me the Zack Snyder version as a way of saying Go ahead and give me all the characters and all the storyline. This is clearly a Zack Snyder’s Daylight Saving Time League post.

So, thanks to Lovett, the producers and writers, to Sam and the other guests, and the audience that cheered me on the same way they did the other guests. I really appreciated it.

 

Summertime is done, DST is next. When will clock-changing end?

Greetings to my surprisingly large number of readers from Europe!

In whatever language you use, you generally refer to the period where the clocks are an hour later as summertime instead of the completely American Daylight Saving Time, which we of course turn into an acronym of DST. (That comes in part because we can never remember if it is saving or savings time.)

I hope you enjoyed your extra hour of sleep. Sleep is so wonderful, and almost all of us need more of it.

Of course, we also need exercise, and with the sun going down now before we get off work, that gets harder and harder. Also, take care out there… crime goes up when it gets darker earlier.

Dublin-summertime-dst-sunrisePhoto by Mark Dalton on Unsplash

You may be on this site because you thought that some law was created that would end all of this clock changing madness. There was, kind of. It didn’t really take hold for thoroughly European reasons. (I wrote about that here.)

So, for now, you are kind of stuck with it. Sorry.

We in the U.S. change the clocks next weekend, so for just this one week you are an hour closer to us. I can tell you from experience that will make trans-Atlantic calls both easier and more confusing. But, let’s celebrate the closeness in time while it lasts, and try not to complain about the rest.

I really try not to complain, and just be fascinated by all of this. I was even in Europe during the Spring Forward time change a couple of years ago, and found the perfect place to talk about it:

 

Europe took a big swing at fixing all this, but missed. (Does that expression work for fans of cricket?)

I applaud Europe for taking that big swing, and I actually thought that was the best solution for the world, and said so for a couple of years. But now that it seems dead, I’m now looking to my home country to lead the way on this.

Will we be able to do it? Stay tuned! Be sure to follow me on Twitter to get the very latest, or sign up for my extremely infrequent newsletter in the box on the right.

And when it is dark and miserable when you are trying to go home from work this week, remember that it does not need to be that way.

But until we fix it, stay strong and be healthy. And keep in touch with each other, and with me. 

Your friend in wanting clock sanity,
I remain,
Yours,

-Scott

ThisClose to Progress on DST in Canada

Well, we’ve now had the first state- or province-wide vote on the issue of Daylight Saving Time, and unfortunately the result did not go the way I had hoped as voters rejected a proposal by the narrowest of margins.

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That’s right. More than a million votes cast, and the margin was fewer than 3,000 votes.

With a margin that close, nobody can claim a huge mandate for anything, but I think there are a few things we can take away:

  1. The idea of #LockTheClock is very popular. Other than me writing a couple of blog posts, there was absolutely no organized proponent organization or message or effort of any kind. Even so, nearly half the people voted for it.
  2. There are two groups of people who voted no, those who want to keep changing the clock, and those who favor permanent Standard Time. So, those who want to have permanent summer time are about as many as those two groups put together, even in Canada where the winter nights are extremely long.
  3. I was especially interested in the town of Lloydminster, which straddles the border of Alberta (where they voted on the DST issue) and Saskatchewan (which has already decided to #LockTheClock in Permanent summertime). Voters there approved the idea, showing that people who know more about it know that not changing clocks is a very good thing.
  4. There are some Alberta-specific politics that seem to have influenced this vote negatively.
  5. I wonder if the vote would have gone differently if it was right after the Fall Back time change, when everyone has to leave work in the dark at 5 p.m.

Before the language was announced, I had pushed for the idea of asking the voters two questions: Do you want to stop changing the clock? and, If so, which time zone do you want to lock into? It’s hard to say for sure, but my hunch is that the first question would have won by a wide margin, and then the second vote would have probably gone for permanent summer time.

I haven’t seen anything like exit polling, but for argument’s sake, let’s say that half of those who voted no like changing the clocks twice per year, and half want permanent Standard Time. In that case that means that 25 percent of the votes would go for permanent ST, and half would go for permanent DST, leaving the last fourth up for grabs. Let’s be generous and say that the vote would split evenly, that would still mean a 2-1 win for permanent DST. Hard to see a lot of bad news in that.

I had really been hoping that we’d see a convincing result, but we just did not get that. If it had been sweeping, then maybe it would have been a message to the rest of the world. But given that it is not exactly the most populous province in a not very populated country that has extremely long nights in the winter, well, I don’t think this evenly split vote is going to be sending much of a message.

Not all hope is lost, however. With the fall change to the clocks coming soon my inbox is again filling up with requests from reporters and lawmakers. Maybe if the U.S. is able to Lock The Clock, Canada will want to hop on board the sanity train and join us in a future where we don’t have to change the clocks twice per year.

Daylight Saving Time podcast from CNN with Jon Lovett

Just a quick post with a really thoughtful and fun podcast from CNN.

 

If that embedded player doesn’t work, you can find it here.

Overall I thought it was great, and arrives at what is certainly a reasonable conclusion, that we should allow each state to decide for itself. That is essentially the solution offered in a House Bill. The podcast doesn’t mention that bill, but does mention the Sunshine Protection Act, which does have a lot more support. 

If that is what happens, I will of course celebrate, but it just seems like that is a less likely outcome than what most legislators seem to be pushing for now, which is Permanent DST.

Anyway, the podcast is enjoyable, comprehensive, and a welcome addition to the cannon of DST coverage.

Daylight Saving Time As Distraction, the Global Edition

I’ve written before about how I think that politicians have used Daylight Saving Time as a distraction from some other topic. Probably the clearest example was when Nixon ordered a change the clocks while in the midst of Watergate — in January! (Changing the clocks is always bad, but doing it in January was just cruel.) It didn’t work, and Nixon still left office.

Now we have news from Brazil, which is considering starting DST again after stopping it a couple of years ago. The purported reason? Drought.

But this quote from an excellent AP story is telling:

“The only reason why we’re not seeing greater problems is because of the economic crises of the last few years, and lower consumption than expected.”

That is, the drought is making it so that it’s hard to generate electricity, but people are using less electricity because of massive economic problems.

Also, the COVID situation in Brazil is rotten, in no small part because the president is telling lies about the vaccines. Some god with a sense of humor gave the Brazilian health minister a case of COVID-19 so that he could not attend the U.N. General Assembly this week.

With all that going on… sure… let’s talk about how changing clocks for Daylight Saving Time will fix everything.

Park Bench in Sáo Paulo
Photo of a park bench in São Paulo, Brazil, by Ronaldo de Oliveira

In the midst of all the other pain and suffering, they may actually make people start changing clocks again, which will only add to the pain and suffering.

Of course, a part of the problem there may be where they decided to lock the clock. Brazil decided to stop changing, which is the whole goal of this site and the #LockTheClock movement. And I have always said, and I honestly believe, that if you lock the clock in standard or daylight time, it just doesn’t matter all that much, as long as you stop the changing.

But my goal is to make sure that when stop changing, we stop changing for good. I’d hate to see a place stop changing clocks, and then start again because they picked the wrong time. Is that the case in Brazil? It’s hard to say from the polls as reported in that story. 

I have to wonder… would this be coming up again if they had decided to stay in Daylight time permanently? Maybe if they had done that, people would be happier (as is indicated by a couple of studies you can find on my research page) and so there wouldn’t be any talk about giving people longer days in the summer, which is now on its way in that Southern Hemisphere country.

Brazil clearly has lots of problems. I hope they don’t compound them by going back to the barbarism of changing the clocks twice a year.


I was planning on writing about a different story in the island state of Samoa. There were a few tweets and stories I saw that this independent country in the South Pacific was going to abandon Daylight Saving Time.

But, being an old reporter, I thought maybe I should check it out. The news sources seemed a bit sketchy. 

If your mother says she loves you, the old journalism aphorism goes, check it out.

Sure enough, when I went to the newspaper of Apia, the largest city and capital of Samoa, there were no stories. The government website and twitter feed had nothing. It seems like that big of a change would have warranted at least a tweet.

So, I’m still digging around. Samoa has a rich history of changing the clock to look after their own interests. Back in 2011 the country skipped a whole day, Dec. 30, so that their days and times would match up better with New Zealand and Australia. That forced map and globe makers to redraw the international date line. So, that’s cool, and could indicate that they may have gotten rid of clock-changing. Most other islands governments closer to the equator, including Hawaii and Puerto Rico, have no DST clock changing.

Did they actually get rid of DST? When I hear back from anyone official, I’ll update this post and tweet about it.


Our last stop on our global tour for this post is Australia, where some new research shows exactly what we’ve seen everywhere else in the world, that people generally prefer having more light later in the day relative to the clocks.

In a survey of the part of Australia that sticks with Standard Time all year, survey respondents said that they would rather have Daylight Saving Time.

Just as mentioned above, geography matters for how much people want to have more daylight later in the day. “Dr. Sigler explained that the further away from the equator you were, the more you experienced the benefits of daylight savings.”

The story, unfortunately, does not get into the problems with the clock changing. It’s a bit hard to tell, but it would seem that people there would rather change the clocks twice a year just to get more sunlight later in the day during the summer. It doesn’t appear that they were asked about if they just wanted year-round Daylight Saving Time. Too bad. Maybe after the vote in Alberta, they will consider that as a possibility. 

 

DST: The one issue that can fix them all

 The classic movie Bridge Over the River Kwai is now more than 60 years old, so if you haven’t seen it, well, too bad, I’m going to ruin the ending for you.

The movie is about a British soldier who gets captured during WWII and is held in a POW camp deep in a hellish jungle. The soldier, played by Alec Guinness, plays it all by the book, and gets tortured for it. After his torture, he is directed to build a bridge.

Here’s where he goes a bit nutty, probably in part because he had just spent weeks in isolation in a hot box.

He takes over commanding his men who are building the bridge, and finds that they are doing a rotten job. They tell him that of course they are doing a rotten job, they don’t want to build a great bridge for the enemy.

Guinness’ character says that what the men need for their morale and their stiff upper lips, etc., is to do a great job on the bridge… Build something they can really be proud of. He’s a charismatic guy, so the men do just that and build a great bridge. For the enemy.

Meanwhile an American soldier is trying to, you know, win the war, so he leads a group to blow up the bridge.

Right at the end of the movie, Guinness’ character discovers the wire leading to the bomb. He tries to stop the bomb, but then he sees the American soldier. That American gets shot and killed trying to make sure the bridge gets blown up.

And then, in one of the great moments of cinema history, something clicked for the British commander. You can see it in his face, and he says, simply, “What have I done?” It dawns on him that he has lost sight of the bigger objective, and became enraptured by the fever of the moment. He gets then gets hit with shrapnel, but somehow rises up, dusts off his hat (very British, to his final moments) and stumbles over and falls on the plunger, blowing up the bridge just as the train goes over it, plunging it into the river.

Final scene of Bridge over the River Kwai

With that, democracy survives.


One of the most amazing things about the issue of Daylight Saving Time is that is totally nonpartisan. Perhaps the two highest profile politicians who want to get it done are Marco Rubio and Ed Markey. The state legislatures that have passed something include Washington and Oregon, and also Mississippi and Alabama. The Montana legislature is very conservative, and it passed a DST bill sponsored by a Democrat.

That makes it so unquestionably different from basically every other substantial issue.

You’ve probably noticed this, too, but issues that absolutely shouldn’t be political, suddenly are political.

And they all fall into buckets. If I know what you think about a football player taking a knee during a song, I also know what you think about the estate tax. If you think the pullout from Afghanistan was worse than the fact that we went to Afghanistan in the first place, I would predict that you also oppose school mask mandates. And vice versa.

Now, I’m not one to wax poetic about the old days, but one thing about a period really not that long ago was that your views on foreign policy were not really that great of an indicator of your views on local school board policies. There was just a lot more, well, freedom about what you believed. 

Others have written about this a lot, but it’s something we all know almost reflexively these days. If you see someone with a MAGA hat on, you will either give that person a salute, or you will back away slowly not making any sudden movements and hoping that the person isn’t armed.

Now I ask you: Name one issue that the science is real crowd has in common with the Trump’s election was stolen crowd. Seriously. 

Well, I’ve got one for you: Daylight Saving Time.


I’m sure there are more sophisticated ways of looking at this, but in general I think the Republican Party has three basic groups.

  1. Chamber of Commerce types, who just want a good business environment, the rule of law, free markets, etc.
  2. Libertarian types who want low taxes and less government. They’ve always been uneasy with the GOP’s stances on gay marriage, abortion and the like, but they figure the courts will sort all that out, and usually they do.
  3. Cultural warriors. Some of these are sincere anti-abortion believers, but most are just racists, gun fetishists, fabulists and/or people with serious unresolved daddy issues. 

The whole Trump phenomenon was clearly driven by the third group, and was tolerated and cynically taken advantage of by the other two groups.

(This post is not for the third group, but I’m not really worried about them reading this anyway because they don’t really go for reading.)

It’s not hard to rile up that third group and motivate them to action. Give them a little fear — fear of dark skinned people, fear of globalists, fear of “socialism” and especially fear of the Democratic party — and they will buy your red hats, donate money, show up at rallies and wave flags. So many flags.

For it to work, you must also convince them not to believe what they see with their own eyes.

The thing that we’ve seen happen over the last five years or so is that elected Republicans, party leaders, and big money donors have been completely taken over by the circus barkers. We see little snippets of news every so often that they don’t really believe any of the democracy-destroying rhetoric, but they fear that if they say so out loud, the third group will turn on them. That is what happens, too, so it’s a rational idea. Some have said that’s fine and just left. I’m not sure how the ones who stay sleep at night.

What I keep hoping for, perhaps naïvely, is that at some point they will come face-to-face with what they’ve done. They will realize that they are the British Commander who has built a huge, solid, totally functional bridge, and the bridge they’ve built is for the enemies of democracy.

What have I done?

What will be the issue that could prompt this response?

I’m hoping it’s Daylight Saving Time.

After all, DST is an actual governmental issue. The government decides what the clocks say. Right now the clocks are actually killing people.

What I’m hoping is that somehow this issue will be the one that will make them snap out of their Trumpian coma. That they’ll look up and see that they don’t need to oppose Every Single Thing proposed by Democrats. They will see that Democrats are actually Americans who care about their country and want things here to be better. 

They will see that Democrats are not actually the enemy.

The true enemies are common enemies. Changing the clock twice a year… that’s an enemy that we can defeat, working together.

Once they have said: What have I done? and fixed DST, then they can go on to face other common enemies. 

COVID does not have to be a political issue. The disease, instead of Democrats, could be the enemy that must be defeated. Wearing a mask during the flu epidemic of 1919 was seen as patriotic, and getting the polio vaccine was something everyone did to unify the country.

Climate change? Republican Teddy Roosevelt started the National Parks and Republican Richard Nixon started the EPA. Conserving the environment is a conservative idea.

But we can’t use one of those big topics to be the catalyst. We need to start with something small. Tiny, in fact.

That’s just what Daylight Saving Time could be: The tiny issue that we drop into the test tube that changes everything.

 

Voting Guide: Daylight Saving Time in Alberta

Alberta is not the most famous of the Canadian provinces. It’s probably best known as the home of Calgary, and the 1988 Winter Olympics, which became even more famous because that’s when the Jamaican Bobsled team made its international debut, as featured in the Disney film Cool Runnings.

But Alberta may soon be known for something else: Fixing Daylight Saving Time.

CalgaryPhoto of the Bow River east of Downtown Calgary by Igor Kyryliuk

You see, while there have been dozens of state and provincial legislatures that have debated or passed bills that would #LockTheClock, there has never been a binding vote of the people. That will all change on October 18, 2021.

(Yes, there was a vote in California, but it wasn’t binding. It was a complex, procedural bill, and even though it was worded into a pretzel on the ballot, voters thought that it might help to end the clock-changing madness, so they approved it by a wide margin.)

That means that Alberta voters are now the first people in the world who will get to have a direct say in ending the clock madness since the passage of the Uniform Time Act of 1966 in the U.S. While that law wasn’t binding on Canada, the provinces have hewn closely to the U.S. since then.

So, if you are a registered Alberta voter, how should you vote? I’ll break it down for you here:

What is the DST language I’ll be voting on?

Do you want Alberta to adopt year-round Daylight Saving Time, which is summer hours, eliminating the need to change our clocks twice a year?

By the way, this language is great, I think. It’s even shorter and more clear than the language that I recommended when I first wrote about this. I thought they might want to ask two questions: 1. Should we stop changing the clocks? and 2. What time zone should we lock in to?

The officials decided to make it much more clear and direct. It’s true, there will be some in the strident and vocal minority who will complain about the lack of an option to stay in Standard Time year-round, but it would appear that there are even fewer of them in Canada than there are in the U.S.

And there aren’t many here.

The people coming up with that language were probably informed by a survey done early in 2020 showing that 91 percent of those surveyed by the government wanted to stick to the summer time year-round. Why go to the hassle of two questions when you know that one of the options doesn’t even have the support of 10 percent of the electorate?

Voting Guide

So, we know that nearly everyone in Alberta likes the idea of year-round Daylight Saving Time, but when it comes time to vote, individual voters may have some concerns, and want to know all of what’s involved. I’ll break it down here as clearly as possible.

Reasons to Vote Yes for permanent Daylight Saving Time

Survey after survey has confirmed that people hate changing the clocks, and that’s been true forever.

The thing that’s changed in recent years is a raft of research showing that it’s not just unpopular, it’s deadly. I’ve written about this a lot, and if you want to do your own research, you can do that here.

So, if it is actually deadly, and if the legislatures in the provinces and the states know that, why hasn’t it changed? The answer is that while legislatures are made up of “leaders” there is often a hesitancy to get too far out in front on any issue. A lot of stuff gets debated, and sometimes even passed, but so far all the votes have been to change only if some number of other nearby states/provinces also move.

All that to say, one of the pros of voting yes is that you will send a message to the politicians that you really do want them to fix this, and fix it right away. That is a message that will be heard in Alberta, and if I have anything to do with it (and I do) I’ll make sure that lawmakers all over the U.S. hear about it, too.

The concern from some lawmakers has been that they don’t want their province/state to be out of synch with their neighbors. That’s legitimate, but one only needs to look at Arizona to realize that’s not really a big issue. That state does not change clocks, and the people there love it. One time a legislator proposed that Arizona should start changing clocks just to help with business, and he go so overwhelmed with constituent pushback that he actually held a press conference to announce that he was killing his own bill. Oh, and if business is suffering in Arizona, it’s hard to see how as that is one of the fastest growing and most prosperous states in the U.S.

In short, the pro side of voting yes is that you will get what you want — permanent Daylight Saving Time — and you may just help the rest of Canada and the U.S. get it, too.

Reasons to vote no

I’m clearly advocating that you vote yes, but there is one legitimate reason to vote no: Perhaps you like changing the clocks twice per year? If so, I guess you could vote no, in spite of the fact that you’ll be putting your neighbors at risk by doing so.

Let’s say you are a person who just doesn’t really care that much… You adjust easily to the time change. You think you might want to vote no just to make it less confusing for the neighbors of Alberta. Sorry, but that’s just not that good of a reason. Again, see Arizona. It’s slightly confusing for others dealing with that state, but it doesn’t actually cost any business.

Another reason to vote no would be that you prefer staying on Standard Time, the time we use in the winter, all year long. That’s a legitimate point of view, it just happens to be a very small minority. As we saw in that poll from the provincial government, you are among less than 10 percent of the population.

So, you could vote no just because that’s your preference, but two things about that: 

  1. You’ll lose. This thing is going to pass by a wide margin. And…
  2. You’ll be hurting the cause that people like you who prefer the winter time and people who prefer the summer time agree on, which is that it’s crazy to change the clocks twice a year.

If this measure in Alberta passes two-to-one or better, it will send a really strong message to all of Canada and the U.S.

And once you’ve done away with the clock changing, if it turns out that the winter mornings really are too dark for too long, you can go to the government and ask for one last change — a change to permanent Standard Time. If enough of your fellow citizens agree, that will be a much easier change to make.

Is there anything else I should know before voting in Alberta?

Not really. There’s lots and lots of research, and you can certainly read all of that.

But at the most basic level, this is something proper for you and the voters of Alberta to vote on. After all, the whole idea of time is that it is an agreement. In a modern society, we all need to agree on what it means that a flight leaves at 10:15 a.m., or that a radio program starts at 2 p.m., or that we are going to meet some friends for a beverage at 6:30 p.m. That’s what time really is.

Given that time is an agreement among people, it makes perfect sense that the people of Alberta get to declare: We don’t want to change our agreed-on time twice a year any more. Just set the clock, and leave it. We don’t need to be sleep-deprived in the spring. We don’t need it to be pitch-black at 5 p.m. on November 7th. Just set the clocks for summer time, and leave them there all year, OK?

If you do vote to end the clock changing by a wide, wide margin, that will be the alarm clock that will be heard around the world.

Hey, Nate Glubish, You Can Fix The Clock for the Whole World

Nate Glubish Aug 2019

Dear Nate,

I hope you don’t mind me calling you that. I know you are a duly elected member of Alberta Legislative Assembly, but you are also Canadian, so my guess is that you are not overly formal.

Recently the news came out that you are going to call for a referendum to ask voters what they think about Daylight Saving Time. You have good reason for wanting to do this:

“Albertans are passionate about this and a change on this matter should not be taken lightly. How Albertans calculate time affects literally everyone in this province, as well as others beyond our borders.”

Indeed, you are right that people are passionate about this issue, even in the under-stated country of Canada.

You are also right that how Albertans deal with time could affect others outside of Alberta. Or, you could be.

You went on to say that the wording of the question has not yet been decided. The wording is so important, and that’s why I am writing to you today in this public format.

You see, there has been a lot of polling done, and there have even been a handful of votes. In every poll and in every vote, it’s clear that the people would like to see something done to fix the madness of changing the clocks twice per year.

The question is: What should be done?

This is where I would respectfully submit to you the question you can ask that will help make some actual progress in Alberta, and as you alluded to, in the other provinces and I would say there may even be a lesson that those of us in the U.S. may listen to.

So, what should the question be? How about this:

If Alberta moves to stay in one time zone all year round, what time zone should it be? Permanent Standard Time (what we have in the winter) or Permanent Daylight Saving Time (what we have in the summer)?

With wording like that you will take away the ambiguity that has existed in so many other referenda and polls. I suppose you could make it two questions: 1. Should we keep changing the clock twice a year? and 2. If not, which time zone should we lock into?

Can you ask two questions? Maybe you just want to keep it to one. If so, then asking which time zone Alberta should lock into is the one that will get you the useful information you need, and will be instructive for politicians in all of the countries that still practice the barbarism of changing the clock twice per year.

If you do ask that question, my hunch is that it will come in at about 80-20 for permanent Daylight Time. In Alberta, a lot of people are already going to work/school in the dark during the winter, so if it is an hour of it still being dark in the morning, meh.

With Permanent DST, at least people will have a bit of sunshine when they get off of work, and the kids will have a little bit of time in the daylight after school to play outside.

I’ve been wrong before, and perhaps people will vote for permanent Standard Time. There will still be plenty of evening light in the summer, and the mornings won’t be quite as bleak in the winters.

There’s plenty of science on both sides of the issue, so asking voters what they think is a great idea, and a way to actually make some progress in Alberta, and around the world.

Happy to talk to you directly if I can be of service,

Your fellow citizen of the Mountain Time Zone down in the States,

I remain,

Yours,

-Scott

 

Ohio and Daylight Saving Time—Will They Pass The Buckeye?

Close readers of this blog my note that I have not written in a while. Sorry about that. Just busy with my day job and personal life.

I’m being prompted back to life by the helpful staff of some legislators in Ohio. As is my custom, when I can’t testify in person and instead am required to submit written testimony, I just write it up and put it here on my blog.

I also try not to just repeat the same thing in every state. I’ve seen that done, and people can really tell.

OK, here goes:

<clears throat>

DST in OhioPhoto by Benjamin Suter on Unsplash

 

Dear members of the State and Local Government Committee,

Many of you were in the legislature just two years ago when Ohio passed a resolution that was essentially similar to this. And you may be asking why we are back doing this again?

Fair question. Let me answer with an analogy:

When you were a kid, did you ever ask a parent for, say, some ice cream? And they said no, but when you asked a second time they said yes?

Same kind of thing here. Congress has the power to give America some ice cream in the form of no longer needing to change the clock twice per year. They didn’t give it to us in the last session, so now we are back, and we want that ice cream.

Of course, this is ice cream that comes with a benefit of saving lives. You may remember all the stats from last time, and the research done since then makes it even more clear: The “Spring Forward” time change is deadly. Heart attacks, strokes, car accidents, the whole list. The research that has come out in the last two years is that deaths and hospitalizations for just about every cause go up as a direct result of the government stealing an hour of sleep from the whole population one weekend in March.

So, yes, this is a good thing to do. Saves lives. Makes people happy. And everyone wants it. A recent national poll shows 68 percent approval for passing a bill to #LockTheClock. Only 14 percent opposed.

And now, if I might… a quick personal appeal:

That poll showed wide approval for this change to the law, and the numbers were almost identical among people of both parties.

Also, this issue is blessedly bi-partisan. Washington and Delaware have passed bills, as have Wyoming and Arkansas. Sponsors of the current federal bill include Marco Rubio of Florida and Ed Markey of Massachusetts.

In most states, the bills that I see do well have broad bipartisan support.

This resolution, however, looks like it has only Republican cosponsors.

Really?

I want this resolution to pass, sure, but what I want even more is for our country to heal. To do that, we need to find some common ground and work from there.

This issue is that common ground. There is simply no spin that can turn this into a conservative or liberal issue. Even Donald Trump and Elizabeth Warren said they want to #LockTheClock.

So I’m directly challenging every single one of the co-sponsors to go out and recruit one Democratic co-sponsor. If you can’t work together on this, what can you work together on?

Daylight Saving Time Risks and Rewards

Recently the United States went through a tricky couple of weeks where use of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine for Covid-19 was suspended, and then reinstated.

The problem? Out of more than 7 million doses given, perhaps seven people got blood clots. Two of them died, although it’s not yet clear if those deaths were really because of the vaccine, or if some other factors contributed to their deaths.

Just to be clear, I am not pro blood clots.

And I don’t envy the job of the CDC. They had to figure out what to do given that the vaccine could absolutely save a lot of lives given how deadly Covid is. But then there’s the Do No Harm thing.

How does this relate to Daylight Saving Time?

The research is now crystal clear: When we set the clocks forward in the spring—robbing an hour of sleep from an entire population—people die. People die in traffic accidents. People have heart attacks and die. People have strokes and die. People die in workplace accidents. The list goes on and on.

A lot of people die in every country that has clock-changing.

And a lot more people are injured. I link on that research page to a new study showing that hospitalizations for just about everything go up in the days after the Spring Forward clock change.

So, here is the question, and the connection to the vaccine:

Let’s say that the J&J vaccine did kill those two people, and that those numbers hold up. That is, for every 3.5 million shots, one person will die.

Should they keep giving it out?

What the CDC is saying is that they should. The risk is worth it because of the chance of dying from Covid is so much higher. The risks vary, but if you spend more than 15 minutes in a room with other unvaccinated people, let’s say your chances of getting Covid and then dying are in rough numbers about 1 in 500.

So, the math works out to 1 in 500 vs. 1 in 3,500,000. In other words, you are 7,000 times more likely to die of Covid than to die from the Covid vaccine.

(And now that we know there’s a blood clot issue, especially for women aged 18-49, we can just say to that group that if you have a history of blood clots, maybe take one of the other two choices. Just doing that will likely drop the death rate by half or more.)

All very sensible.

Now let’s look at the Spring clock change.

The numbers of people who die because of heart attacks, etc., is not clear. The research shows an increase in death rates, but I haven’t seen a study that puts a number on it. With traffic deaths, however, one researcher did the math and figured out that on average there are 28 people that die in traffic accidents in the days after the spring clock change. So let’s use that number.

If we are going to take the CDC approach, we would need to weigh those 28 deaths against the benefits that come from changing the clock.

Here is where the argument for DST clock changing completely falls apart.

What is it that we get from changing the clock that makes it worth killing those 28 people? Really, name one thing.

With J&J, the math is, essentially, should we kill one person to save 7,000?

Using that math, changing the clock for daylight saving time would have to save 28X7,000, or nearly 200,000 people.

If we add in the deaths from heart attacks, etc., we are probably looking at DST needing to save a million lives every year to justify the human toll of the clock changing.

Does it? Does switching the clocks twice a year save a million lives?

I think you would be hard pressed to say it saves even one life. I mean really, why do we keep changing the clocks? Is there any reason other than the regular inertia of doing things the way they have always been done?

I will answer that question for you. There is none. There is no good reason to change the clocks.

Think of it like this: If we didn’t change the clocks, and someone went to the government and suggested that we should change the clocks twice per year, knowing what we know now there is absolutely positively no way it would get approved. I mean, just imagine someone arguing: Hey, I know this will kill a lot of people, and injure even more people, but think of the benefits! What are the benefits? Well, you know… The farmers!

TrollyPhoto by Amogh Manjunath on Unsplash

You may have heard of the Trolley Problem. In short, you are running a trolley, and if you do nothing, the trolly will kill five workers. If you flip a switch, you will go on a different track and kill only one person. Do you do it? You still have to take an action that will kill a person?

For the J&J question, the trolly conductor essentially decided to flip the switch to take that one life in order to save about 7,000 lives.

For the Daylight Saving Time question, the trolly conductor (all of us) are essentially deciding not to flip the switch to move to the track that won’t kill anyone, and instead stay on the track that will kill dozens, perhaps hundreds of people every single year.

It’s time to flip the switch. It’s time to #LockTheClock

 

Is Change Coming to European Summertime in 2021?

Of all the oddities of Daylight Saving Time, one of the oddest is that the United States shifts the clocks the second Sunday of March, and much of Europe does it on the last Sunday of March.

Maybe even more weird is Israel and some nearby countries, however, which switch on the last Friday of the month for the Spring Forward change, but then on a Sunday for the Fall Back change. Go figure.

And then there’s Iran, which changes on the spring and fall equinox, no matter what day of the week it comes on.

But let’s just focus on Europe, which for the first Spring Forward change in a long time doesn’t include Great Britain, home of Greenwich, and the home of Greenwich Mean Time, otherwise known as Universal Coordinated Time, or Zulu Time… because why have one name when you can have three!

Time zone globe

Time zone globe explinationPhotos taken by me when I drug my family to the Royal Greenwich Observatory on vacation because I am that big of a time nerd.

Brexit has not yet hit the clocks, and those in England will change this weekend along with the rest of Europe.

I’ve written before about how I thought the European solution was the best possible solution, and then I wrote about how it is now failing, in Europe. 

In short, the idea was, I thought, that the European Union decided there would be no more clock changing, and each member country had a year or so to figure out what time zone it wanted to land in permanently. It turns out that I had it a bit wrong, that they would only #LockTheClock after all the member countries decided which time zone to land in.

So where they landed is that no country has wanted to decide. They talk about it, but nobody has taken action.

It is a hard decision, and perhaps nowhere is it harder than in Spain, which has a particularly, well, Spanish approach to time.

Back in WWII, Franco wanted to align Spain with Germany, and adopted German time. If you go there (and I recommend it highly) you will see that the sun sets in Madrid at 9:49 p.m. on the longest day of the year. That’s late!

The crazy part (to me, anyway) is that the Spaniards are just getting going at that time. If you go to dinner at 9 p.m. even a popular resteraunt will be empty because the real Spaniards don’t eat until 10 p.m. or later. After all, that’s just when it’s getting dark.

So, should Spain get more aligned with the sun? Right now “solar noon” in Madrid comes at 2:16 p.m. on June 21st, so you could make the case that Spain could make a two-hour shift and still have some sunlight to spare.

But longtime readers of this blog know that I don’t think I should be dictating the “proper” solution to anyone in any U.S. state, and certainly not to any European country. If having the sun stay up that late is the quintessence of Spain, who am I to judge? If Spaniards want instead to have the clock aligned to the sun in ways that are more similar to their neighbors, that’s great, too.

All I know is that just as with everywhere else in the world that forces the barbarism of clock changing on the populace, this coming Monday will be deadly, with increases in heart attacks, strokes, traffic accidents, etc. The list is long and scary, and the Spaniards should do something about that along with all other civilized countries.

Will it be the European Union that leads the way to clock sanity? It was the Europeans who started the whole mess back in WWI, maybe they will be the ones to end it?

If I had to bet, I’d actually say it’s the U.S. that will lead the world on this topic. Our country is bitterly divided right now on so many topics, but on this one there is unsurpassed unity.

 

More proof that #LockTheClock is the ultimate in a bipartisan topic:
Make Daylight Saving Time permanent: Sens. Patty Murray and Marco Rubio https://t.co/dyjtleQYim via @usatoday

— Scott Yates, #LockTheClock (@lock_the_clock) March 27, 2021

The one exception

I think it’s a bad idea to change the clock twice a year. (Well, only once a year is it deadly when we take away an hour of sleep, but…)

There is one country, however, that I actually encourage it. For now.

I was fortunate enough to visit Ukraine a couple of years ago. It’s an amazing country that has suffered enormously under Russian AND Trumpian manipulation and occupation, and yet manages to be optimistic and friendly.

The people there want to break away from Russia in every way possible, and one of those ways is by keeping time with Europe, and not Russia. Europe changes the clocks, Russia doesn’t. (Perhaps the one move Putin has made that I agree with.)

So for the people of Ukraine, changing the clocks is another way that they can signal to themselves and to the world that they are European and democratic.

My only hope is that everyone in Kyiv, and the rest of Ukraine, takes it easy on Monday morning when the alarm clocks will go off an hour earlier than expected, leading to all those negative health impacts.

And with a little luck, perhaps the U.S. will lead the way to bring freedom from the tyranny of clock-changing to the whole world.

Kyiv freedomPhoto by me taken in Independence Square in Kyiv in 2018.

New Daylight Saving Time Polling Shows Change is Coming

Sometimes on this blog I back into the news at a leisurely pace. For this one, well… here’s the story I would have written back when I was a reporter:

Supermajority now favors year round Daylight Saving Time

WASHINGTON — A new poll shows that preference for permanent Daylight Saving Time has grown to new highs with 68 percent of respondents saying that they support the move and 14 percent opposing.

The poll conducted by Morning Consult and Politico asked nearly 2,000 registered voters if they supported bipartisan legislation to make Daylight Saving Time permanent. Fully 45 percent said that they “strongly support” the legislation, and another 23 percent said that they “somewhat support” it. Seven percent each said they either strongly or somewhat oppose the bill, and another 18 percent said they didn’t know or did not have an opinion.

DST polling

While previous polling has shown a plurality of support for Permanent DST, this is the first national poll from a professional polling company that has shown such a strong majority. 

The Politico/Morning Consult poll surveyed 1,993 registered voters and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 2 percentage points. A breakdown of the data showed nearly identical results for men and women, as well as Democrats, Republicans and independents. There was also no significant difference based on education, religion, employment, area of the country or if the respondents live in an urban, suburban or rural area.

 

If I was still a reporter, this would be the point in the story that I would insert a quote from someone, well, probably someone like the current version of me, saying something like: The momentum was clearly on the side of fixing Daylight Saving Time when you looked at all the action in the state legislatures and in D.C., so it’s no surprise that this poll shows that the legislatures really are doing what the people want them to do, and that’s to lock the clock into what we now call Daylight Saving Time, but will soon become known as just ‘time.’

Then I would probably do what all the news stories do these days, and insert a paragraph about all the negative health consequences of changing the clocks, especially in the spring when we are robbed of an hour of sleep.

 

Since I got this news, I have been grappling with a question that I don’t really have an answer to, and that is: Why?

The polls have never been really clear because they often ask the wrong questions, but in general all the polling breaks down something like about 50 percent want Permanent DST, 25 percent want Permanent ST, and about 25 percent don’t care or are fine leaving things as they are.

What would cause about half of the Permanent ST and half of the “don’t care” people to move to the side of Permanent Daylight Saving Time?

I really don’t know, but here are a couple of guesses:

 

Guess one: They asked the question right around the Spring Forward change.

It could be that people just so dislike being robbed of an hour of sleep that they essentially said: Please, just make it stop! That could be. I hope the pollsters ask that question again, but at the rate things are moving they may not get another chance because it may be fixed soon.

But that guess doesn’t really hold up because the poll asked about a specific bit of bipartisan legislation, so I don’t think that’s it.

 

Guess two: The people arguing for permanent Standard Time are doing it so badly that opinion is turning against them. 

This is something I’ve seen firsthand a couple of times now. Permanent Standard Time proponents will show up at a state legislature, and basically pontificate about how they have a monopoly on truth and science, and make statements that amount to: If you don’t do what we tell you to do then you are an idiot. Before this year I bridled a bit when one of them would show up to testify, but now I welcome it because they are so off-putting that they actually help swing votes over to the side of fixing DST. 

But the reality is that all the efforts being made to convince people that we should only lock the clocks if we do so in Standard Time are getting essentially zero traction, so I don’t think that’s it. Indeed, if circadian sleep scientists hadn’t been speaking up, the “strongly oppose” may have gone even lower than seven percent.

 

Guess three: Young people are leading the way.

For years now I’ve thought that younger people are better than people over 50 (like me) at realizing that the conventions of the past are not rooted in what’s best, but instead just rooted in doing things the way they have always been done. I give them credit for looking at older people who tell them we have to change the clocks twice a year for the farmers, and saying: Wha… Huh? And then those young people get elected and decided to do something about it.

But the one part of the crosstabs that shows some deviation from the rest of the results is that GenZ has only 22 percent who strongly support the legislation. (Then again, only four percent strongly oppose it. Maybe that generation just doesn’t have “strong” feelings just yet.) So, again, not a really clear indicator of much.

 

So, is this all good news in the fight to #LockTheClock?

Yes. It is.

Politicians do look at polls, especially on stuff like this where they are not getting direction from their party leaders. As we’ve seen, there is no partisan angle on this at all.

When you can cast a vote that has only 14 percent of the voters who might potentially be mad at you, well, that is an easy Yes vote.

But because I am in this for the long haul, I do have a little bit of a worry that it is so popular, that we won’t take the time to do it properly, and then we could have a rebound problem in the years to come.

This is why I wrote that my idea for a federal proposal would give states a bit of breathing room. 

As much as I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to never have to change the clocks again, unless Congress can act really quickly (like, before June), my personal opinion is that we should actually wait and put the change in next year, in 2022.

That will give each state enough time to really decide what time zone it wants to lock into. 

In general, and this poll confirms it, most people and most states want to lock into permanent Daylight Saving Time, the one we use in the summer.

Look at the heartland states like Kansas, which neighbors my home state of Colorado, but is on the western edge of the Central Time zone. (Well, mostly.) I spoke to the legislator working to Lock the Clock there and told him that maybe Kansas could unify the state in one time zone, and lock into Standard Time. He told me that his constituents really want to be in Daylight Time year round. The poll confirms that. Also, they already are getting up in the dark and going to school in the dark, and they just want a little sunlight at the end of the day. 

But is that really the case in, say, Indiana? Most, but not all, of that state is in the Eastern Time Zone, but in permanent DST the sun wouldn’t come up until about 9 a.m. in the winter. If they go through a whole winter and look at what that might be, then the legislature could take that up in their session that starts in January of 2022, and make a decision about what that state wants to permanently. They may want to reunite their state into one time zone, and join their neighbors in Illinois. Then when we have the last-ever Spring Forward time change in the U.S. in March of 2022, Indiana would just stay the same.

This is why I say that if the U.S. Congress wants to act this year to #LockTheClock permanently it needs to do so now. NOW! 

If they wait past about the first of June, maybe the first of July, then the state legislatures won’t practically have time to take any action before the Fall Back time change.

 

Bottom line: This is great news, and I hope Congress takes action based on this. I just hope they either do it really quickly, or that they amend the current bills to make it easier for states that are on the border of a time zone to pick which side of the line they want to end up on permanently.

But to amend the bill, the first thing we need to do is get a bill a hearing. That’s why my previous post calling everyone to exert whatever influence they have on Senator Maria Cantwell asking her, politely, to give the Sunshine Act a hearing. Now you have all the data you need to convince her that this is something the people really want!

Federal Bills to Stop Daylight Saving Time – Update for 2021

I recently wrote about what’s going on in state legislatures around the country. One of the criticisms that I sometimes get is that I shouldn’t pay much attention to what happens in the states because the federal law needs to get fixed, and state-level efforts are pointless.

That’s just wrong, but you’ll have to read that post to figure out why. Short version… in a movement like this… all progress is progress.

Still, a federal law would fix things, so I am all in favor of federal legislation, and with the announcement yesterday about the new version of the Sunshine Protection Act, (and the upcoming—deadly—change to the clocks), attention has turned again to D.C. So, let’s look at what is happening.

First, here are the active bills in a handy table updated continuously from the remarkably helpful people at BillTrack50.

2021 Federal DST Bills

 

As of this writing, there are three bills, two of them with identical language. I’ve been in touch with the staff of the sponsors of all three bills. I’m always careful to respect confidential information, and also be mindful of the legislative process, so everything I say here will not be a surprise to them.

I’ve told all of them essentially the same thing:

  1. I support you.
  2. I will do whatever I can to help.
  3. I hope that as these measures move forward we can adjust them a bit.

I was hoping that this year one of them would introduce a bill set up the way I think will work best, but because I do all of this as a hobby in my spare time, and because I am not the most organized person in the world, I didn’t get that message to the right people at the right time, so here we are.

Will Daylight Saving Time be Eliminated?

Where we are, however, is in a great position. When Sen. Rubio introduced his act the first time back in 2018, his effort sunk like a pebble tossed into a pond that didn’t leave a ripple. When he introduced it again in 2019 the proposal got two things that it didn’t get the first time: Lots of bipartisan cosponsors AND competing legislation in the House. Both are signs of momentum, and that’s what it takes, I’m told, to get things done in D.C.

Really, if it hadn’t been for, well, 2020 (and all that implies) this may have happened last year.

So this is the year, I think. A reporter recently asked me what the odds were that it would happen this year, and I didn’t have a good answer at the tip of my tongue. Now with a moment to think about it I think it’s 50-50 this year, and at least 75-25 next year.

What are the steps to have that happen?

At this point, really only one step, which is for one of these bills to get a hearing.

There is a chance that the concept of #LockTheClock could get woven into some other bill. That’s what happened the last time there was a change to DST. Some of you may remember that in the U.S. we formerly changed the clocks for the spring in April, and now it’s in March. That change, and one to push it just one week later (from last Sunday of October to the first Sunday of November, a change lobbied for by the candy industry) was shoehorned into the Energy Policy Act of 2005, and took effect in 2007. 

The same thing could happen now. Let’s say the Support Local Transportation Act gains momentum, and seems destined to pass. A legislator could ask for an amendment to #LockTheClock to that bill. The clocks in the U.S. are managed by the Department of Transportation (a throwback to when train travel necessitated the use of uniform time) so it is not that much of a stretch. It could easily happen.

But until we have something like that proposed, what we have are the bills in front of us, so let’s take a look at those in the form of a handy table:

 

  Sunshine Protection Act (Senate)
(Sen. Rubio, SB 623, and HR 69)
Daylight Act
(Rep. Stewart, HR 214)
Central Idea  Immediate switch to make DST the new Standard Time. Ability for states to adopt DST as their own Standard Time
Main points in favor 1. Ends clock changing for all states uniformly.
2. Puts all states into generally more popular DST unless they take immediate action to opt out.
1. Gives states flexibility to end clock changing if they choose to do so.
2. Allows states the ability to go into the time zone most popular for that state.
Main points against 1. Moves too quickly.
2. Forces states to act that
may not be ready.
1. Moves too slowly.
2. Creates situation of patchwork
and constant changes.
Current status Waiting for a hearing in Senate Commerce. Waiting for a hearing in House Commerce.

A compromise proposal would have the goal of retaining the points in favor of both bills, while eliminating the points against.

What Congress Could Do to Fix DST in the USA 

This proposal I think does that:

  1. Amend the Uniform Time Act to say that the mandate to change clocks will end after the Spring Forward Change in 2022.
  2. The time zones will be adjusted forward using the language from Senate Bill, Section 2(b)1.
  3. Allows any state that is on the border of a time zone to decide before March of 2022 which side of the line it wants to be on after the final “spring forward” switch.
    1. If a state doesn’t make any decision then it will move into the new Standard Time and so it will “spring forward” in March of 2022 and remain in that time permanently.
    2. If a time-zone-border state takes action through its legislature or through an initiated ballot measure on the ballot in 2021, that state can choose to “fall back” in November of 2022 and remain in that new standard time permanently.

Also, optionally, we may want to put language in the bill that directs the Department of Transportation to publish new sunrise times for each state with the instruction that those will be sent to each school district, so that before the school year the local districts can adjust their daily start times to allay any concerns about schools starting too early relative to the sunrise in the winter. (It’s a canard that later sunrises are dangerous for school children waiting at bus stops, but there is some reputable research showing that teens need more time to sleep in the mornings so this should probably happen anyway. And if we’ve learned anything in the last year, it’s that schools can be flexible about their schedules!)

We may also want to work with fire departments to have them adjust their guidelines that people check their smoke detectors at the point of the time change, and instead check them on the first day of fall and the first day of spring.

Can We Fix the Current DST Bills?

Now, if you were like me just recently, you might say that it would be best to amend these bills now… get them all fixed up before they even get a hearing! Well, that shows how you just don’t understand Washington!

Look, I don’t know anything except what I’m hearing from the staffers. In short, trying to amend the bills now is like negotiating against yourself. If someone has a better idea, let them float that idea, but let them do it in committee.

Right now, the one and only goal is to get them a hearing in front of a committee. That’s where advocates like me and others can make their voices heard and compromise can be reached.

Trying to adjust the bills now is like trying to wear fancy pants when you are on a zoom call—kinda pointless.

The Key to Fixing DST May Be Sen. Maria Cantwell

That leads me to finally wrap up this post with one central point: Let’s get a hearing for one of these bills!

For the bill that’s gotten the most attention, the one in the Senate, the person who holds the keys is Sen. Maria Cantwell of Washington State. In Congress, the person who runs the committee decides what bills get a hearing, so she is the pivotal person.

Cantwell-dstMaria Cantwell, D-Washington State

 

What’s fun about that for me is this: Sen. Rubio, a Republican, just couldn’t get the last chair of the committee, another Republican, to give the bill a hearing. No reason was ever given publicly or privately that I heard about.

So now that control of the Senate has changed, that means Sen. Cantwell is in charge. How fantastic would it be for small-d democracy if a big-D Democrat is the person who made it possible for a Republican like Sen. Rubio to get his bill heard? I for one think it would be spectacularly fantastic because this is an issue that absolutely refuses to be put in an ideological box.

Also working in our favor is the fact that she represents Washington, a state whose legislators overwhelmingly voted for a bill to #LockTheClock in permanent Daylight Time, and was one of the first of the modern era to do so back in 2018.

That means our job—yours and mine if you are reading this—is to put the full court press on Sen. Cantwell to give this bill a hearing. We need to be respectful, etc., but we need to collectively ask everyone who might have any connection to her or her staff: When will you give the Sunshine Protection Act a hearing?

 

In the House, we have a similar situation, but unfortunately a bit more track record that is not promising. Essentially the same bill was introduced during the last congressional session, and the same chair, Rep. Frank Pallone, D-New Jersey, never gave it a hearing.

Here, it could be partisan politics. The bill last session was introduced by a conservative Republican from Utah, who retired. The main sponsor now is another conservative Republican and he has only one cosponsor, yet another Republican. I’ve been telling people literally for six years now: If you want your bill to pass, get some cosponsors from the other party!

So if you happen to be Frank Pallone’s brother-in-law, or you have some other really strong connection, tell him to ignore the sponsors and give this bill a hearing. Or, he could give a hearing to the mirror bill to Rubio’s proposal, which does have a nice bipartisan set of cosponsors. I’m sure Sen. Rubio will be fine with someone else getting the credit on this, as long as he gets to have a night’s sleep that doesn’t get cut short by an hour.

 

Thanks for reading, and if you have ideas of how we can convince Sen. Cantwell or Rep. Pallone, be in touch. Or just go for it, and then let me know how it goes.

 

Which Celebrities Want to Fix Daylight Saving Time?

When I started this blog I was a lone voice in the wilderness, complaining about having to change the clocks. Not even my mom read all my posts.

But little by little, the audience has grown. Reporters started figuring out that I wasn’t just a crackpot, but that I could be helpful to them. (OK, I may still be a crackpot, but at least I am quotable and not wrong.)

Then legislators around the country and in D.C. figured out that I could be helpful to them, so they write me all the time these days, and I’m happy to help.

The weirdest part for me is now being in the company of celebrities.

Which ones?


Jon_Lovett-DST

Jon Lovett says he is a “one issue” voter regarding Daylight Saving Time

Well, first on the list has to be Jon Lovett, who talks about Daylight Saving Time all the time on his podcast, and has the most nuanced view of any of the celebrities I’ve seen opining on the topic. He did so again just today:

He then went on with a whole thread about his idea for a solution, which is so nuanced it can’t be contained in a single tweet. (That’s a good thing, says I.) It’s such a good solution that I hate to quibble with it, but his solution would create a bit of a patchwork around the country. I will be writing about that in my next post looking at the federal legislation out there.

Update: He did it again in this podcast, starting about 1 hour in.

I remember my heart leaping just a bit when Ben Stiller tweeted about this, AND used my hashtag:

I got to meet Nate Silver once. I told him thanks because back before fivethirtyeight.com was a household name, I knew about it and used his predictions to win some money in an office betting pool about an election. Without missing a beat he asked for a share of the winnings.

So, it makes me quite happy to see that he is part of Team #LockTheClock:

This is the celebrity I know the best because he was my boss back at the legendary Spy Magazine. I’ve never talked to Kurt Andersen about this, but of course he lands on an astute analysis:

Other celebs seem to just want the barbarism of clock changing to end. You get that feeling from Jimmy Kimmel who basically pleaded with Elizabeth Warren to #LockTheClock.

Update on the Spring Forward weekend: This is HUGE! The Dept. of Transportation does actually control the clocks, but they only do so at the direction of Congress, so we still do need to fix the law, but having Pete on our side should help a lot.

Craig Shoemaker to me is proof that just about everyone really hates this thing:

Neil deGrasse Tyson has been an advocate saying we should #LockTheClock for years:

Joseph Gordon-Levitt was so sleep deprived that his tweet wasn’t even funny, and he forgot that it’s “Daylight Saving” with no S on the end.

Celebrity author David Itzkoff captures the mood of the room well in this tweet:

Chef Ted Allen would like us to stop cooking the clocks:

Mindy Kaling might not be taking a policy position, but this one hit home:

Same goes for AOC — this tweet shows she knows it’s an issue:

I’d like to close with someone not famous — but a #LockTheClock hero in my book: George Moncure from Montana.

George is a retired guy who just wanted more daylight to play tennis with his friends. He talked to his state senator, got some bills going, handed out smart flyers, and moved the ball forward more than a lot of “influencers.” (Update, he did it!)

In the final analysis, what makes change? Nate Silver’s tweet or George’s tennis matches?

Whatever your level of celebrity — go for it. Take action. Be part of the winning side of history.

Thanks for reading, and be safe this weekend — especially Monday morning.

-Scott

Daylight Saving Time/Standard Time Legislative Update 2021

Last year at this time I had just finished testifying in Atlanta, and I had high hopes that we’d get to 20 states that had passed some kind of bill to #LockTheClock in 2020.

Well, as we know, 2020 through us all for a loop. A few states that move really fast, like Wyoming and Louisiana, got a bill done before everything went to crap, but we ended up with only 15 states that have taken action.

This year is poised to blast through the progress from last year. The bills I’ve seen, testified on, and talked to sponsors about are absolutely blazing through.

Scott-Atlanta-testimony
My last trip before Covid was to Atlanta in support of Wes Cantrell

One big thing that’s different this year is that I’m able to be many more places at the same time, through the magic of zoom. One of the realities of this new world is that people are much more accustomed to meeting in virtual rooms. That means less time on an airplane, and much more time getting the word out, so that’s a net positive.

And the vibe I’m picking up everywhere is that it’s time to get this done. With all that’s going wrong in the world, let’s at least make the clocks work. That’s the general feeling I’m picking up all over the place.

What’s going on in your state?

Well, for the very latest, check out the Daylight Saving Time legislation page, which has a map and a list updated continuously. But for some of the story behind the story working roughly west to east, here are some updates:

Nevada

Around the country, there have been only a small handful of states that haven’t done anything to #LockTheClock, Nevada among them. That changed with the introduction of a bill this week.

The bill follows a lot of the best practices I laid out in this post.

  • It calls on the Feds to fix the U.S. laws.
  • It cooperatively works with California.

There’s a saying around state capitols that it takes five years to pass a good bill. Given the speed this is moving around the rest of the country, Nevada may be the first state to introduce a bill and pass it in the first year.

And if it does, California will be surrounded by states that want clock sanity, so maybe the legislators in California will finally get with the other states, and with the 70 percent of voters who said loud and clear they want something done. (It’s going to be a bit harder since the two biggest advocates for change in California’s legislature are both now out of state office, but it could still happen.)

If California does follow Nevada, it will be clear that what happens in Vegas stays in, well, at least it stays in the Pacific Time Zone.

Montana

Going just a bit west and north is the Big Sky state, which has the distinction of being the only state that touches two other time zones besides the one that it is in.

If the new law passes there, much of the credit will go to a citizen, George Moncure, who just likes to play tennis outside, and likes the sun later in the day to be able to do that with friends.

I’ve told him that if I had 50 guys like him, this thing would have been fixed years ago. He’s marshaled resources, found people to testify, worked with a sponsor… he’s done it all and made it easy for me.

If you think you’d like to make a difference in your state, but don’t think one person can make a difference, I hold up George as proof that one person can make a huge difference.

Montana’s legislative session is short, so it may not squeak out in time, but it may.

Interestingly, there’s another bill going through the legislature that George is not in favor of, a bill that would put Montana in Standard Time year round. Longtime fans of the #LockTheClock movement know that this blog doesn’t have a position on which time zone is best to lock into.

So, this state may be an interesting glimpse into which of those two choices a state legislature will opt for. More on that idea when we get to Texas.

New Mexico

One of the earliest legislators I ever wrote about on this blog was Sen. Cliff Pirtle, who has been advocating for clock sanity for years.

His bill for this year passed 6–2 out of its first committee, which I was honored to testify in front of by zoom. I was just glad to speak because I got elbowed out of a chance to speak when I drove down there to testify a couple of years ago.

DST testimony in N.M.

I understand that this year Pirtle has more bipartisan support for the bill, which should help it sail through a bit more quickly.

Texas

There are a bunch of bills in Texas this year, seven at last count.

The ones that are the most interesting to me are the two companion bills that would ask the voters if they prefer locking the clock in permanent Standard Time, or permanent Daylight Saving Time. These come from Rep. Lyle Larson, and Sen. Jose Menendez. (Note that these two sponsors come from different parties. It would be wonderful to see a bipartisan bill emerge from Texas on this clearly bipartisan issue.)

I’ve seen a zillion polls regarding DST, and in general it seems that about 70 percent of people want to #LockTheClock. If and when people are then asked what time they want the time locked into, again about 70 percent say they want Permanent DST, the time we have in the summer.

But the polling is often muddied. The options are jumbled together, or the language isn’t clear.

This proposal would make it crystal clear for voters: Permanent ST or DST? Pick one.

Now, what goes for Texas may not go for every state, but it will be interesting to watch the results. The state is huge, but in general is toward the western side of the Central Time zone, so it would be easy to make the case that it should be in Standard Time year round. People in Texas, from what I hear, also like football and barbecue, both of which are better with more sunshine.

Texas-bbq-dst

A really interesting vote to watch will be in the little chunk of Texas surrounding El Paso, which is in the Mountain Time zone. Their vote likely won’t be enough to sway the state, but it will be interesting to see if people there opt to remain different than the rest of the state and like their neighbors in New Mexico and Mexico, or if they would want to join with Dallas and Houston.

Just for the trove of new data we would get, I’m hoping that bill passes and the voters get to have a say this November.

For one thing, it will take a lot of the arguments that are currently in the shadows, and force them into the light. Do pharmaceutical sleep aids do better with more clock changing? I don’t know, but if there’s a campaign on both sides, and the pharmaceutical companies donate to one side, we’ll finally have a clear answer.

Oklahoma

The bills there would #LockTheClock for Oklahoma into Standard Time.

This will also be a fascinating one to watch. No state has opted to lock into Standard Time since Arizona did it in 1968, two years after the Uniform Time Act of 1966 made that the only legal choice for a state.

Every other state that’s passed a law or resolution in the last four years has passed something saying that it wants to lock into permanent Daylight Time, so Oklahoma would be going the other direction.

Given that it is on the western edge of the Central Time zone, that makes some sense for people there. The sun wouldn’t come up until awfully late in the winter. How will golfers react to the idea of sunsets around 7:30 instead of 8:30 p.m. in the summer? I haven’t seen any organized opposition yet, and one bill already passed out of its first committee with a unanimous vote, so this bill might go all the way, which would mean that Oklahoma could be the first state in nearly 50 years to #LockTheClock.

Dad joke alert…

Will the Sooner state #LockTheClock sooner than the rest of the country?

North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska and Kansas

These four states, like a stack of delicious pancakes in the heartland of the country, have some strong time zone similarities:

  • They all have a weird line vaguely around the 100th Meridian that splits the time zones from the eastern population centers from western farm and ranch lands.
  • They all have bills/resolutions calling to move to permanent DST.
  • All those bills are sailing through. One bill that I thought was doomed in North Dakota is now doing very well. I’m glad I didn’t kill it!

Illinois

The land of Lincoln has had a few bills each year for the last few years, but this may be the year something happens. The bill that I think may have the best shot is the one that has bipartisan sponsors. This is the ultimate in bipartisan issues, so it makes sense to have sponsors from both parties.

The only part of this bill that I disagree with is the fact that it just kind of announces that Illinois will be moving to DST permanently. That’s not actually allowed under the current federal law. I’ll try to work with the sponsors here and see if we can get the bill amended to something that has a better chance of making a difference, which may in turn help it to get voted on, approved, and signed by the governor.

The Illinois legislature meets essentially year-round, so it may be a while before we get news here.

Indiana

I’m not going to write about the states not doing anything, except I do want to mention Indiana, which has a particularly weird history with DST.

If I was in Indiana, I’d be reading the tea leaves of what’s going on around the country, especially in DC, and I’d realize that there’s a pretty good chance that Permanent DST is coming for everyone.

Perhaps more than the residents of any other state, Hoosiers may not be happy about this. The sun would come up awfully late in the winter. It’s just nuts that Indiana is in the same time zone as, say, Vermont.

Their chance to fix this before it gets done to them is now. Why is there no action? I just don’t get it.

Georgia

Wes Cantrell is another hero of the #LockTheClock movement. He’s been pushing bills for a couple of years now, and actually getting them passed.

This year Georgia has a couple of bills that seem contradictory on the surface, but as Rep. Cantrell has explained to me, they actually are not.

Right now the federal government doesn’t allow states to go to Permanent DST, only Permanent ST. One of the bills in Georgia would have that state do what’s legal now, and move to Standard Time year round. The other bill would have the state move to DST year round at the point that it becomes legal.

Sort of like with Texas, this will be a fascinating dynamic to watch play out.

If the feds move quickly, the Standard Time discussion will be moot. If not, however, Georgia could remain in Eastern Standard Time all year. Georgians may not hate that. The state is on the western edge of their time zone, but the effects aren’t as pronounced because the time zone isn’t as wide near the bottom as it is at the top. (I always thought the Eastern Time Zone looked a bit like a funnel.) Also, because the state is so far south the swing in daylight time isn’t as dramatic as it is up north.

But tourism is a big industry in Georgia. Also, the state is probably a bit more socially and economically wrapped up with Florida, so it may want to stay in the same time zone with that state.

Will that state move to Standard Time, like it, and want to stay, or will it try it for a year, and realize that it wants Permanent Daylight Time? I don’t know the answer to that, and really the people there probably don’t either, but it could be an interesting test case that we can all learn from.

New York

In some ways, this is the ballgame right here.

For one thing, a lot of states are super tightly integrated into New York City. I was testifying in Connecticut where a bill seemed likely to pass (until the TV industry killed it, but that’s another story.) Part of the reason it was going to pass is a compromise I had a small part in brokering.

A representative from the part of Connecticut that has a ton of people who live there but work in “The city” (as they call New York City) said that he just couldn’t support something that might see people have to change time zones every morning on the way to work and again on the way home.

Fair enough.

So the compromise was that instead of Connecticut being dependent on Massachusetts before it adopts Atlantic Standard Time — which is the trick that they would use to help deal with current law about only being able to go into Permanent ST — it would be dependent on Massachusetts and New York doing the same.

The same kind of thing is at play with New Jersey. It would be a bit odd for the countless people that drive through the Lincoln tunnel or over the George Washington Bridge or take the PATH train if they had to change time zones each time.

And with New Jersey, you need to bring in Pennsylvania and probably Delaware, etc.

So. Yeah. New York is kind of the key.

Also New York is pretty much the center of the broadcasting world. As far as I can tell, it’s broadcasters who are the most rattled by the idea of more daylight for everyone later in the days. They don’t want to come out and say it, but they want it to be dark outside so people will come inside and sit on the couch and watch TV.

How hard will they push when actual bills start getting hearings? Or will they push so hard behind the scenes that the bills won’t get hearings at all?

New York’s legislature meets all year, so we won’t get any quick answers, but you can be sure that I’ll be paying close attention to the four bills, so far, that have been introduced there.

Vermont, New Hampshire, Connecticut

Another hero of the #LockTheClock movement is Tom Emswiler of Massachusetts. They are now considering a bill that would take the recommendation of the study committee that said moving to Permanent Atlantic Time would be best for the Bay State (report downloadable from this link). Tom gets a ton of the credit there.

It started when he wrote a column for his local paper. That turned into a law that ordered a comprehensive study. That study was conducted by consulting tons of experts, debating for hours, and the end result was that the best thing the state could do is move to Permanent Atlantic Standard Time, as long as a couple of neighboring New England states came along.

Well, now those states are slowly coming along.

They are getting some resistance. It was ESPN, based in Connecticut, that has previously killed proposals there, but overwhelming bipartisan support may finally push back against that.

New Hampshire has a creative lawmaker, Josh Yokela, pushing for practical solutions there, and his bill may get signed this year.

I disagree with national broadcasters when they want to see it darker, earlier, so people will watch more TV. I do think they have a small nugget of a valid point in not wanting to see the continental United States move to five time zones from the current four. I don’t think that will happen because of the Connecticut-New York issue. But if that was solved, and we had states in the Atlantic Time Zone, it could be a bit confusing for a while.

But the reality is that solar noon is way off clock time for the New England States. If politics were out of the equation, those states probably would be in the Atlantic Time Zone, in Standard Time, all year long.

After all the dust settles with the efforts to #LockTheClock, will we have five time zones in the lower 48? Probably not, but it’s a fun thought experiment of where you might draw the line that works for solar time as well as for the natural associations of populations.

 

Summary

I hope you’ve enjoyed this walk around the country.

The one thing that seems to tie all of these conversations together is the fact that this topic is no longer a sideshow. For years it was discussed in a few states with a few lighthearted legislators who didn’t mind a bit of snickering going on when their bills were brought up, and then killed.

There’s still plenty of levity with this topic. In a recent hearing I was participating in the committee chair couldn’t find the sponsor, and he joked that she must be operating in a different time zone.

But once the jokes are done, and people realize that approximately 28 people are going to needlessly die this year because of the “spring forward” time change, and that countless more will have heart attacks, strokes, workplace accidents and more, the joking fades away and the voting starts. And this year more than any other year, legislators are voting yes.

Will state legislatures be able to fix this? Not on their own, and in an upcoming post I’ll take a look at what’s going on in DC, but there’s no question that state legislatures passing resolutions and laws is a hugely important effort that is absolutely getting noticed in Washington.

And if the U.S. can get this fixed, then maybe Europe will get out of its current rut, and it will be able to fix this, too.

Then instead of dreading the clock change every spring and every fall, we’ll just be able to live our lives and someday our grandchildren will wonder what the heck we were doing changing the clock twice a year.

Thanks again for reading, and keep in touch!

Permanent Standard Time vs. Daylight Time — The Ultimate Guide

Bottom Line at the Top:

All research and scientists agree that changing the clock twice a year is deadly, especially in the spring when we rob an hour of sleep from the entire population, other than those lucky ducks in Arizona, Hawaii and Puerto Rico.

If we decide to #LockTheClock for everyone, which time zone should we lock into? There’s legitimate science that backs either position for health reasons. It tips toward permanent Standard Time for sleep reasons, especially for those states on the western edge of their respective time zones. For other states, the health social, business, educational and other benefits are on the side of permanent Daylight Time.

Here is a guide so you can decide for yourself which time zone would be better for you and your state.

Issue

Permanent Standard Time Permanent Daylight Time
Deaths from cancer, other causes   Deaths go down in DST, up in ST.
Mental Health SAD is treated more effectively with more morning light. Despair overall would improve with more evening light.
Exercise   More evening light means more exercise.
Sleep Studies show people get more and better sleep in permanent standard time. Other studies say the benefit is relatively small, and the question is too complex to be boiled down to a single recommendation.
Schools Students do better with more sleep, so if school start times are not adjusted, this is better. No increase in accidents, so if the start times are adjusted, this is not an issue.
Traffic   Improvement in safety.
Pedestrians   Big improvement in safety.
Environment   Smog decreased if afternoon rush hour is in the sun.
Crime   Goes down in DST.
Business   Retail sales improve.
Wildlife   More daytime driving saves wildlife and reduces fatal deer-auto crashes.

If you are a state legislator trying to figure out what is the best time zone for your state to land in, you might want to look at this guide.

Play around with the sunrise and sunset times under the different scenarios. You may be surprised.

Right now the trend in every state that has taken this up is to want to adopt permanent Daylight Time. I even testified recently in Nebraska and Kansas, supporting the sponsors there because I support any bill that makes a move toward getting rid of the clock changing and locking into one time zone year round.

That said, I think both Nebraska and Kansas would do well to look at permanent Standard Time. The sun would come up awfully late in those two states in the winter. Going to permanent Standard Time would also give them an opportunity to get rid of that line that goes through the middle of those states, cutting them into two different time zones, something that would be approved of by the Department of Transportation under the Uniform Time Act of 1966. I brought that up in one-on-one conversations with the sponsors in both those states, and they both were clear that the citizens want Permanent DST. Once I was clear on the fact that they understood the dynamics, I told them I would help them however I could.

It may just be that they have to go into Permanent DST to discover that the sun coming up after 8 a.m. in the winter is just too late, and they will want to do what Arizona does, and go to permanent Standard Time. Either way is fine, of course, as long as they end the barbarism of changing the clock twice a year.

Up in New England, there’s just no question that forcing states that have such short days in the winter that the solution that works for Arkansas or Nevada is the exact same solution that is going to work for them is just ludicrous.

And I’ve written about Indiana before, but really, there is just no sense in that state being in the Eastern Time Zone. They could also unify that state around a single time zone already in use in the northwest and southwest corners of the state.

It’s a similar story in Kentucky, where lots of residents have to change time zones daily just crossing a county line like this one:

Time-zone-signWayne’s World is Confusing!

Of course, I could be totally wrong, here. It may be that the people of, say, Michigan, are fine with a couple of months in the winter where it doesn’t get light until 8:30 a.m. because it means that no matter what they will get at least some sunshine after work/school all year long. That is a legitimate trade-off, and is certainly a legitimate choice for the people of Michigan to make.

Same goes for Texas, which may be putting this question to a very real test.

A legislator there is proposing to ask voters which time zone the Lone Star State should go to permanently. Every other poll I’ve seen muddies the question. This would be crystal clear, and would be really helpful if there is a federal law that moves all states into Permanent DST, which seems more than possible.

The people of Texas can then use a tool that looks at sunrise times, etc., and decide for themselves. Do you want more sun before work in the winter, or do you want to eat Texas barbecue with the sun still shining until later at night all year long?

(My prediction is that Permanent DST will get between 65 and 75 percent of the vote, but I’ve been wrong before about election outcomes in Texas!)

Which is the correct choice?

There is, of course, no single “right” answer here.

The very concept of time is simply an agreement among people. In our modern world we need to have time as an agreement to coordinate so much of what we do.

My view is that the time agreement has a bug, and the bug makes us change the clocks twice a year. One of those changes, the one in the spring, kills people every time, and injures lots of others.

Once we get rid of that bug, what is the best time zone for us to land in? I really don’t think there is a perfect answer for any place, and the answer is a bit different in every place.

Anyone who says there is only one correct answer has some other agenda that they are not telling you about.

Kansas Testimony on Daylight Saving Time Resolution

Testifying in Kansas, I think my seventh state already this year, but this Sunflower State wanted written testimony first, so I thought I’d just share it here, too…

Dear Chairman Barker, Vice Chair Arnberger, Ranking Member Ruiz, Rep. Francis, and members of the Federal and State Affairs Committee,

My name is Scott Yates from the neighboring state of Colorado. I’m the leader of the international movement known as #LockTheClock, otherwise known as a guy who blogs about Daylight Saving Time as a hobby.

I’m sorry I’m not there in person with you, though I did very much enjoy a visit with my son last week, and Rep. Francis was a gracious host.

Kansas_Statehouse_Daylight-saving-time

I’ve been at it for seven years now, and I can tell you that this year the activity is off the charts. When I first started there was just me and a few other sleep-deprived people complaining on the internet. Now we have 15 states who have passed something to fix the barbarism of DST clock changing, and the dozens of bills introduced this year are flying through committees.

In previous years a couple of legislators reached out to me, but most of the bills didn’t go anywhere, and the general feeling was that nobody wanted to be the state that goes first.

Then the last couple of years a lot of legislators reached out, and a lot more bills passed.

This year something shifted and now we are to the point where states don’t want to be the last one to pass something.

Also, my inbox is packed nearly every day with notes from staffers of Representatives and Senators in D.C. A couple of years ago there was no traction, and this year there are at least three bills circulating and there’s a bit of a competition to see which will be the first to get a hearing.

One thing I heard loud and clear from bill sponsors jn Washington is that the absolute best way to get cosponsors of federal bills is for the sponsor to go to lawmakers from one of the 15 states that have passed something to fix DST. Your state, as made clear by your legislature, wants us to fix this. Will you join us? That was the pitch, and that pitch worked more often than it didn’t.

Which brings me to HCR 5008. Is this resolution a good idea? In my view, it is the perfect idea.

In other states there are a lot of arguments that come up around bills, and they are pointless arguments. The federal law simply doesn’t allow states to do what all those bills want to do, and that’s to lock into DST. The bills pass anyway, and essentially what happens is that they become like a resolution, a signal to Washington D.C. that a particular state is demanding action.

That’s why a resolution is perfect. It avoids the mechanics of a pointless law, and gets right to the heart of the matter.

One other short note about potential opposition to this resolution from those who think that Kansans should opt for permanent Standard Time:

If your constituents wanted that, you probably would have heard that. If you haven’t heard that, then that’s probably instructive. The science is decidedly mixed. Some sleep researchers say that permanent Standard Time is better for sleep while others say it is negligible. Other research in the fields of adolescent exercise, mental health, traffic safety, crime and workplace productivity say that Permanent DST would be better. The one thing they all agree on, and why this resolution is such a good idea, is that it helps with what all science agrees on: that the twice-yearly clock changes—especially the one in the Spring—are deadly. The research on that is unassailable.

That said, I am working with the U.S. Congress to ensure that if in the future you decide that you want to switch from permanent Daylight Time to permanent Standard Time, you will be able to do that with as little hassle as possible.

In the meantime, this resolution is another step along the road to end the historical anachronism that is the “Spring Forward” time change, and will make it easier for everyone to get to church on time, even on the time change weekends.

With that, thanks again for your time, and I am happy to answer any questions that you might have.

 

p.s.: I got a couple of good questions, and all of them are basically answered on the Research Page. Also, thanks again to Rep. Francis for bringing up this issue.

 

DST Is Getting Fixed Everywhere But North Dakota, and It’s My Fault

I live in Denver, and recently had my first overnight trip in more than a year, going to Nebraska and Kansas to testify and talk to legislators (and to… you know… get out of the house and have a bit of father-son road-trip bonding time.)

And now I’m feeling really bad that I didn’t make the trip just a bit longer.

I knew that North Dakota had a vote Friday, and I thought about driving north from Lincoln, making a quick stop in Pierre, and then heading to Bismarck to talk to legislators about their Daylight Saving Time bill.

The mistake I made was looking at the forecast, which showed that the expected high was going to be 9 degrees above zero. If you have to designate that a temperature is above or below zero… that’s cold. And that was the high, and didn’t count the wind chill, and from previous trips I know how the wind blows up there.

DST-north dakotaIf I had as much fur as this North Dakota bunny, the bill might have passed!

Photo by Atharva Tulsi on Unsplash

Well, I didn’t go, and the bill lost by ONE VOTE. Put into temperature terms, it was “one below.”

The issue was that some legislators were concerned that if they lock the clock, it might be confusing for people who have business over state lines, or live and work on two sides of the state line.

If I had only met the sponsor before he wrote up his bill, I might have guided him in how to get a DST bill passed

And if I hadn’t have been such a wimp about the weather, I probably could have convinced just one legislator that the bill won’t take effect until there’s a change in federal law, at which point all the neighboring states will also stop DST clock changing, so passing this bill will just be a signal to the feds that N.D. wants to #LockTheClock.

And maybe one of the legislators—we only needed one!—would have switched if they heard about the experience in Arizona where a lawmaker proposed that they start DST switching to make it less confusing, and was so flooded with constituents telling him that they liked it the way it was that he held a press conference announcing that he was killing his own bill.

I gotta not worry about it. The bills this year are absolutely on fire, and are winning at a higher percentage than they ever have before; indeed the Flickertail State is the only one with a loss so far this year. I wouldn’t be surprised if we get to 30 states this year who have passed something to #LockTheClock.

But like the Prodigal Son, the loss of even one state (by one vote!) is rough when I could have helped.

Update: It turns out I didn’t kill it!

Daylight Saving Time Is Dead, The Clocks Just Haven’t Gotten The News Yet

Just a quick post from a hotel room in Topeka, the Kansas state capitol, to let you know that Daylight Saving Time is dead.

Now, we will still have to move our clocks this spring, and there’s a 50-50 chance that we will have to do it again next year, but I think that will be it.

You see, I’ve been writing about this issue for nearly seven years now, and I have seen the evolution firsthand. When I started people thought I was a kook. (I probably still am a kook, but that’s another story.)

When California’s initiative passed by a huge margin, and then Florida’s legislature passed a bill in 2018, people started taking the issue a bit more seriously.

In 2019 and 2020, when I talked to legislators and testified around the country, people would ask me if this was really going to happen, really wanting to know.

Well, after years of pushing the rock up the hill, this year I’m just kind of a witness as the rock rolls down the hill.

A good example is Nebraska, the first state outside of my own where I’ve testified in person twice.

The first time I came I got a polite reception, made all my points, had great discussions with lawmakers, but the bill just died.

This year I came to testify, but the sponsor of the bill, Tom Briese, (with the help of his staff) made so many good points that my main job was to talk about how this bill interplays with what is going on in Washington. The feeling I got from the hearing, from talking to a couple of other lawmakers in the hall, and from the staff, is that this bill is a done deal.

 

DST-NebraskaMe having a bad hair day in the Nebraska wind.

Lincoln is just a couple of hours drive through the heartland to Topeka, so I buzzed down to talk to the sponsor of a resolution introduced yesterday in Kansas, Shannon Francis. He’s got so many cosponsors for his resolution that he doesn’t see any problem getting a positive vote for it this year.

It’s not just in America’s Breadbasket, either. New York State has a promising bill and an active sponsor and staff. The silence in years past from N.Y. was disheartening, so the fact that it’s now an open question is huge.

And in many of the 33 states that have yet to pass something, the feeling of inevitability is in the air. Get something done so that we’re not the last state in the country seems to be the new attitude.

So that’s why I say that DST is dead, and the clocks just don’t know it yet. It’s sort of the way that a fish flops around even after it’s been caught and is on the deck of a boat. DST is still flopping around, but…

(And by the way, when I say that DST is dead, what I mean is that the clock changing is dead. The only decision to be made is which time zone each state will lock into, and lawmakers in nearly every state seem pretty clear about that. Texas is looking at asking the voters if they should lock into Permanent DST or Permanent ST, and a couple of others may do that. Once those decisions are made, the time zones will just be known as Eastern Time, Central Time, Mountain Time, and Pacific Time, etc. What a relief that will be!)

So, there’s still some work to be done, and I’m still happy to work with lawmakers around the country and in DC, but now it’s just me giving a slight nudge or hint here and there. The ball is rolling down the hill.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

 

 

Protecting Students During the Dark Days of Covid… And the Dark Days

Here’s another guest post by Jonathan Helton. His first post for this blog about childhood obesity was great, and now he’s back with a post that is very timely for me as my son returns to in-person learning for the first time since last March in the coming days. -Scott

 

Students-walking-dark-dst

This is not the usual time for “back to school” but there’s not much about this year that is “usual.”

With the return to school for many students, however, the topic comes back up about what the right time is to start school, especially relative to Daylight Saving Time.

It can be more than a little disconcerting sending your kids to a bus stop in the morning dark. This fear has reflexively pushed some people to favor permanent Standard Time if they had to pick one time zone to stick in to avoid the madness of changing time zones twice per year.

As the argument goes, an hour of sunlight shifted towards the morning will keep kids safe on their way to school. It’s certainly a noble sentiment.

Noble, but misinformed. In reality, these clock changes endanger kids and by permanently ending these shifts we would be doing more to actually protect them. 

Here’s why:

After the failed experiment of changing into DST in January, 1974, (who thought it would be a good idea to change the clocks in January?!?!?) the Department of Transportation decided to study what actually worked, and what did not work. 

That study debunked the idea that school kids faced additional risk from year-round Daylight Saving Time. A review of the DOT study by the National Bureau of Standards concluded that there was no increased accident risk for students in the morning (pg. 4-5). 

Actually, the opposite is likely true. Year-long DST would probably better protect students overall. A 2008 Wake Forest Law Review piece backed this claim. It looked again at the 1974 changes. While perhaps 10 additional children were killed during the morning hours, there were “sixty fewer afternoon school children fatalities during the same period,” the authors reported (pg. 87).  

That’s not all. In 1995, researchers studied car accidents and lighting levels. Pedestrians—a group which certainly includes students walking home—faced a 300 percent increased likelihood of being in a fatal crash once light was shifted from the afternoon to the morning. That’s exactly what Standard Time, the time we’re on now, between November and March, does. 

Other studies indicate similar things. Lighting changes and sleep loss throw off normal driving habits and increase the risk of being in a wreck.

But permanent DST protects children in other ways. Criminals, who are more likely to be active at night, are deterred during DST. Robberies go down during DST, as compared to Standard Time. Homicides, too, decrease in DST. 

No matter what side of the issue you’re on, then—permanent DST, permanent ST, or the convoluted system we have now—it’s fairly clear that Standard Time does not protect students from crime or traffic accidents. It’s an argument lacking empirical merit. 

Of course, apart from protecting students, there are numerous other reasons to #LockTheClock. More sleep, less stress, fewer heart attacks, etc. Either permanent ST or DST would be better than what we have now, regardless of the school situation. 

But the question of school start times relative to the clock is a legitimate one. In the past school advocates have said that changing what time schools start is just too hard. Well, if we’ve learned anything this last year, it’s that schools can indeed be flexible in scheduling to protect students and do what is best for them academically. Changing start times for school will be a modest change indeed compared to all the other changes made recently.

More than a dozen states have already passed bills in favor of permanent DST. That is clearly the trend, especially for states on the eastern edge of their time zones. That is also the trend in all the federal legislation proposed. Given that, if you are involved with schools in any way, it might be time to start having the conversation about finding the right start times for school if what now seems almost inevitable happens: the country decides to #LockTheClock. 

image from www.locktheclock.live-website.comJonathan Helton is an independent researcher and aspiring graduate student  He covers policy topics from transportation to foreign aid and has published with The Strategy Bride, The Borgen Project, and elsewhere.